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In a dynamic conversation, hosts delve into the multifaceted experiences of guests Christa and Michelle, covering an array of topics that merge everyday life with the extraordinary. Beginning with light-hearted discussions on the quirks of pet ownership and personal anecdotes, the dialogue seamlessly transitions into deeper explorations of paranormal encounters and the profound impact of these experiences. The guests share their journey of reaching out to the Dead Files team to address unsettling paranormal activity, uncovering familial psychic abilities, and continuing engagements with the paranormal through the support of Spirit Mechanix. Throughout, the conversation maintains a balance, integrating discussions on Reiki, tarot readings, and animal intuition with humor and personal stories, highlighting the importance of understanding the supernatural and the value of seeking professional help when faced with the unknown.
This week we sat down with Christa and Michelle Barone, clients from The Dead Files episode, Deadly Force (S11 E13).
We also talked about their filming of The Dead Files, including some behind-the-scenes stories. They also told us more about the activity in their homes, and the whole family’s wide array of abilities. We discussed Reiki, energy healing, and personal abilities, and spiritual connection with pets.
Pour yourself some wine and join us where The Activity Continues.
*Note: this is the edited version, the extended version is released on Patreon. Or you can go to YouTube and watch the VIDEO version (not the audio only)
Content Warning:
In this episode we discuss childhood cancer, and there’s a ghost story that involves a child whose death is a little gruesome. We didn’t even swear… much.
The Activity Continues is a paranormal podcast where soul friends, Amy, Megan, and AP chat about pets, true crime, ghost stories, haunts, dreams, and other paranormal stuff including the TV show, The Dead Files. We also sometimes interview interesting people, whether it be a paranormal professional, a Dead Files client, or a listener with spooky stories.
This episode was recorded on April 8, 2024 and released on May 9, 2024.
Episode links:
The article Christa mentioned: https://basicallywonderful.com/mars-in-scorpio-woman/
Spirit Mechanix: https://spiritmechanix.com/
Christa’s business: Wicked Wisdom Consulting: https://wickedwisdomconsulting.com/
Michelle’s business: Moksha Grace: https://mokshagrace.com/
The Dead Files Official Podcast: https://pod.link/1642377102
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ALL: Hello!
Megan: Welcome.
AP: Hi! Everyone! Thanks for joining us again. Feel free to change, or oh, I'm supposed to change or ad lib. Here. Got it! Thank you all for joining us.
And we're all excited to bring you a new and different episode today with a client interview. Today we are gonna be talking to Dead Files clients, Christa and Michelle. Their episode is called “Deadly Force”, and originally aired October third, 2019, and our episode, covering their episode, came out on April fourth.
So just recently, so hopefully, you…
Megan: 2024.
AP: ..had a chance to listen to it. We are recorded on April eighth today.
Amy, what might we be warning them all about today?
Amy L: So glad you asked. I have no idea.
We do know that Christa had cancer as a child, and so that'll probably come up. But I would just suggest
checking the show notes, because we really don't know where this conversation may go.
And if it if we find something that's, you know, major, like, if we end up talking about something kind of major like we did last week with Kelly and Diane. I will do a voiceover but otherwise check the show notes, and and we'll that's where all your warnings will be.
Amy VO: Hi friends, Amy here, we did end up talking about a child ghost that had some disturbing mental images so heads up on that.
AP: Did you guys like my “feel free to change or ad lib”. Because I totally did that on purpose.
Megan: It reminded me. It reminded me of “Annie” when Daddy Warbucks is doing the ad the radio ad, “Daddy Warbucks, drop page!”
AP: Oh I haven’t seen “Annie” in like 25 years.
Amy L: No, I haven’t seen it since it came out.
Megan: When I was in high school I watched that movie every single day in Study Hall over and over and over again, and we always had to skip over. “The Sun Will Come Out Tomorrow”, cause I hate that song.
AP: Good to know.
Amy L: I was obsessed with the play when I was a kid. So the Broadway play.
Megan: Oh, nice!
Amy L: So I was I I was a little too old by the time the movie came out. I mean, I still saw it, of course, because I loved it for so long.
Megan: Love Carol Burnett, but.
Amy L: Yeah.
Megan: And Tim Curry.
Amy L: Yeah, yeah, they're all great. I was just used to the Broadway cast.
Megan: What's the other one? Bernadette, Bernie Bernadette.
Amy L: Bernadette Peters.
Megan: Thank you. Yup!
Amy L: She’s good in everything. She's amazing. Yeah.
Megan: Yeah.
AP: Yeah, I figured I must have got you two on that one, though, because you both were like “Oh, shoot! She said what she wasn't supposed to say.”
Amy L: well, and then. And I was like, Oh, we're all laughing when you started over. And so I was like, Do you want to start over again? But then it seemed like you thought we should just keep it. So. Yeah.
AP: And no, you keep. Keep it in there. That was, it was purposeful.
Amy L: OK good
[Transition]
AP: Hello!
Amy L: Hello!
Megan: Hello!
Christa: Hello everyone.
Megan: How are you all doing?
Christa: Fantastic.
Michelle: Wonderful.
Megan: Good, lovely, lovely, so glad you guys could join us. Thank you so much for taking the time.
Christa: Of course.
Megan: We really really appreciate it.
Michelle: We're super excited.
Amy L: Good. Michelle, I just got those pictures you sent me via Facebook. I tried to send it to the other ladies, and it wouldn't let me. They couldn't open it so they haven't seen them yet. I have. We'll talk. We could still talk about.
Michelle: So freaking cute, aren't they?
Amy L: Yes! Oh, my God! There's a picture of Steve.
AP: She didn't even tell us what they are, so.
Megan: No, she did.
Amy L: No, cause I thought I thought they were gonna be able to see them until we get on.
Megan: Holding her cards close to her chest.
AP: She never tried to send them. Actually, don’t let her lie to you.
Megan: We were like, “Amy, what are they?” And she was like, “you don't get to see them”. And then she stuck her tongue out at us.
Amy L: For my eyes only.
Megan: Rude.
Michelle: I have that.
Megan: I thought we were past this from the last time this happened, but no.
Amy L: Nope.
Michelle: I am happy to. We, Christa and I are both happy to share them with all of you.
You’ll have to friend me on Facebook. It was just the easiest way for me to get them over to you as fast as possible. I mean, I could pull them up, and we could share our screen, but.
Amy L: That's what I was trying to do. But I'm on. I'm on my computer that I don't have all my apps on. I just use it for recording. And so I tried to open up my Facebook messenger. And it's like loading, loading.
loading. It's been doing that for 15 minutes now.
Megan: Computers from 2000.
Amy L: Yeah Probably I mean computer itself. Yeah, I mean, we put new parts in it, But yeah.
Megan: Sounds like an airplane when you turn it on you like you duck, cause you think an airplane's taking off, and you're like, “Oh, shit. It's just Amy's computer.”
Amy L: It's actually much better than my laptop. My laptop is so loud. That's part of why I don't record on it, because my laptop is so loud it sounds like a jet engine in the background.
Christa: Oh, my!
Amy L: But this one, this old clunker, seems to be doing pretty well.
Megan: Christa, I think your hair is beautiful. And, Michelle, I love your backgrounds.
Michelle: Thank you! Cherry blossoms.
Megan: Beautiful.
Michelle: I have them pulled up. If you want to see them real quick.
Amy L: Okay, let's do it.
Megan: Yes, please.
Amy VO: Here’s where we looked at the photos, if you want to see them either head over to the blog at theactivitycontinues.com or watch the video version of this episode, which is far more chaotic than the audio version. Good luck with that.
Michelle: Let’s see if I can do it the right way.
AP: No, we don't do anything the right way.
Amy L: No, we don't like to do things the right way.
Michelle: Okay. Let's see.
Amy L: We like to do them the dumbest way possible.
Michelle: This is behind the scenes.
Megan: Oh, my! Gosh!
Christa: He was the nicest.
Megan: Who is that?
Christa: I don't remember his name. Oh George, there you go. It says it in the caption.
Michelle: Oh, yeah, George, he was the the mic guy, wasn't he?
Christa: Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Megan: Oh!
Michelle: The boom, the boom operator.
Christa: There's Steve with our golden, Max.
Amy L: Aww
Megan: Aww. Steve is such a dog, Guy! Oh, my gosh! How sweet.
Michelle: And that's the Spirit Mechanix crew that was after they were here, and everything was done.
Amy L: Awesome
Megan: Good. How fun!
Amy L: Okay, so wait a second. Do you actually have a tiki bar in your backyard?
Christa: Yeah.
Michelle: Mmm hmm
Amy L: Oh, my God! Goals.
Christa: That's me!
Michelle: There's the big scene.
Christa: Yep
Michelle: Oh, Marley waiting for everyone to be over.
Christa: Can we go back, we didn’t get to talk about the cookies.
Michelle: Oh, well, on your the one I sent her. Wait! Hold on the one of
Christa: It was in there.
Michelle: No, no! I sent her your post, and you could really see the cookies. The cookies are like so important to see.
Megan: I mean, I don't know what you're talking about, but I agree.
Michelle: Ah, there you go.
Christa: there you go.
These are traditional Greek cookies that I shake into D and F for dead files. And then I did Amy and Steve. So I did As, and Ss too.
Megan: That is so cool.
Christa: Yeah.
AP: Oh man, I would have too much fun making words out of all those letters, especially As and Ss.
Christa: Yeah.
Michelle: Weren't they here for wasn't it the weekend of Greek Easter? And we had to like…
Christa: It may have been, cause it would have been. Yeah. It would have been about the right time.
Michelle: Yeah, I think it was, okay.
Amy L: That’s so fun.
Michelle: Anyway, Show and tell.
Amy L: Love it.
AP: That was awesome love. It.
Amy L: I'll be, I'll be sure to put those in the video version.
Christa: Oh sweet!
Megan: Well, I see that you both have names after your names. Do you wanna talk about what those are? I I don't know how much clear I could be with that.
AP: They appear to be business names after your human names.
Megan: Nope, names after names. I'm sticking with it.
Christa: I'll go first, cause I have them both set up for us that way. It actually is just our our default zoom names. And yeah, there are business things, because we do a lot of different meetings, networking meetings, stuff like that. So Wicked Wisdom Consulting is my company. I'm an operations, a fractional COO and operations consultant. So I basically help online businesses run efficiently.
Amy L: Awesome.
Christa: Yeah.
Amy L: What a fractional CEO? COO? Did you say?
Christa: The fractional COO is basically just fancy, it's like, basically the same part time operations manager, director, Chief operating officer. Yeah.
Amy L: Got it. Got it? Okay. sweet
Michelle: Hence why, Moksha Grace runs so smoothly because Christa is my COO, and make sure that I look good where the company looks good, so I do. Emotional liberation coaching for people that are struggling with their emotions managing them versus that managing their emotions. And basically, it's emotional alchemy.
So that is what which is also corporate’s way. Well, corporate would call it emotional intelligence I call it emotional alchemy.
AP: Sounds like more fun.
Michelle: Way, more fun, way, more fun.
Megan: I'll just picture you like in a basement with like vials around you like ‘let’s mix happiness and sadness, what do we get?’
AP: That's an apothecary.
Michelle: Yes, but we but yes, I do have to work with some of that stuff. But we'll talk about that.
Amy L: I have some skulls that look like that, too. My stepmom made them out of resin.
Christa: Oh, cool!
Amy L: I think I gave her the skull thing actually. So I I know I gave.
AP: Skull tray.
Amy L: The yeah, it's like a mold, and it looks just like those.
Christa: Oh, very cool, big on skulls. I've got skulls everywhere.
Amy L: Oh, cool!
Michelle: My sweet grass. And yeah. Did my little smudging.
Amy L: Alright, well, where should we begin?
AP: I was gonna say, I have parts of skulls, but they're antlers, and stuff. I deer hunt.
Christa: Oh, nice!
Michelle: Okay. As long as you don't say goat hunt, we're okay.
AP: No, my sister has goats.
Amy: As pets.
AP: Yeah, there they were one was a so we have Sylvester Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger. So Sylvester, was brought to my sister's house as an anniversary present from their best man, who told the lady he bought him from, that my sister had other hooved animals.
She only had 5 acres, and dogs and cats, so poor little Sylvester, at 7 weeks old, was by himself until my sister went and got Arnie and Sylvester would sit there and go. “Maaaaaammmm”
Amy L: Oh.
AP: Oh, it was the most heart… like, he said, ‘mom’, it was so heartbreaking. But yeah.
Christa: Oh, yeah.
Michelle: Mom.
AP: They came out of. Yeah, they 2 male goats no longer fully male. but they are now about 250 pounds each.
Yeah, they're big guys.
Christa: And yeah, we have. We have ours are, basically, they're dwarves. So they're miniature. That's actually really surprising how small they are.
But yeah, ours started the same way, and he was so unhappy. Being alone, he escaped the first day.
And that's where we really learned about goats. And then we got him a woman. And then, a year later, we had 9.
Amy L: Oh, my, yeah, yeah.
Megan: Please tell me you put pajamas on them.
Michelle: No, they're all...
Christa: Babies, though I don't think we did. We had to get heaters, though.
Michelle: Oh, no. Yeah.
Christa: Last year we had babies was the time in Florida where it decided we had. We had an actual cold front that was actually cold, so we had to get full on heaters and stuff. But they I mean, it's addicting to have baby goats. But yeah, you gotta cut it off at some point.
Michelle: Yeah. And they reproduce like bunnies.
Megan: So what kind of initially led you to contact The Dead Files, I mean was, had the activity always been going on? And it just kind of spiked, or did it come out of nowhere, or you know what led to that initial contact.
Christa: So we actually at our last property before this one had activity, and I wanted.
Reach out to. Actually, I may have reached out to Ghosthunters as well. (we thought she said Ghost Adv, you know, the other one)
Michelle: I know God!
Christa: The rave at the time, and then, I think, towards the end of us living there. Yeah, at the end of us living there. So I reach. I wanted to reach out to Dead Files, but it really wasn't like of. Not everyone in the family wanted to do it yet. We weren't all there yet. And then, when we moved into this house.
and everything you heard about happened with my brother and everything I was like. We have to do something, and I actually had a trap cam for hunting that I got years before. And I was like, you know, I'm gonna set it up in the house and just see like what what happens. And I caught stuff on the trap camera. And that's actually part of what I submitted with my application cause. I was like, you can clearly see stuff, and it's clearly not dust. So what are we dealing with here?
And then slowly watching things sort of progress not drastically, until the team came, but slowly progress over time. It came more and more evident that, like we need to find out what's here. I'm sure you guys have searched online for like paranormal help, it's very hard to find someone that's like reputable, and that you can trust when you're starting from zero.
So I was like, you know what we've been watching Dead Files forever. Let me submit an application. See what happens, and the rest is history.
Megan: What was on the tape that you submitted.
Christa: If I remember correctly, they were different, like orbs and shapes. And I believe it was my hallway, and I may have done our family room as well, but I know I know most of it was my hallway. And you could see stuff like that, and you could see a clear distinction between dust particles, bugs, because all that, you know, like a little flying mosquito, or whatever, because you can clearly see the difference. And that's why I was like this isn't just dust because when you when you only see dust, you go. Well, maybe, but it all looks the same. But when there's a distinct difference, that's when you go. Okay. something's different. Here, I gotta look into this. And then that's what kind of clued me in on top of the activity.
Michelle: What got me was the orbs that would come shooting out of the bed, my bed.
And they they would come out, up, up from the bed, so.
Christa: The orbs! They would shoot in, and then you'd see someone move or like touch their face right wherever the orb was, and that, yeah, thank you for saying that, because that was the real kicker.
Michelle: And the orbs that would go would seem to always go through the one part of the wall in our bedroom like a frickin.
Christa: Oh I just got chills.
Michelle: I know right like it was a frickin highway.
Christa: Where there used to be a door that we closed.
Michelle: Because we did a lot of work here. A lot of work.
Megan: And you're still in the house right
Michelle: Yeah, yeah, and.
Christa: I should note, too, that at our old house I used to literally keep a composition notebook where I would write down all the events and experiences that we had, and then I found it in this house when I was unpacking, I was like, ‘Oh, my God, that's interesting!” I set it on a shelf.
And then, when we started having experiences here, I started adding to my little notebook to keep track of what was going on, the voices, the the things that we would see. So I have a whole notebook still, like all the experiences from the last 20 years.
Megan: You should honestly try to like, put that into cohesive stories, and like try to publish it.
Amy L: Write a book, yeah.
Christa: That’s a great idea! I might have t do that.
AP: Do you think any of those experiences or spirits that you had from the previous house came with you? Were you having any of the same aspects when you went through it again? Or do you think that they were just two completely separate groups.
Michelle: That’s a great question.
Christa: I I would say, I think it's possible that maybe some of the entities carried over in the sense that they were are our protectors and our guides and beings that should have been around us.
But I also think that, and something that I don't think the show really touched on enough is somehow our family, even my sister-in-law. We all have really pronounced gifts that we didn't really understand or even know about, until the team came that we were probably a lot more open than we realized, but then, also didn't know about the gifts. So I think a lot of that was also just different entities over at that house. But most of what happened at our old house was very positive, and a lot of it was…
You would get a very nurturing energy with it, you know an old woman sitting at the edge of the bed touching your shoulder.
Hearing, you know, a great grandmother's voice. And you're talking about the sauce that you're making those kind of things where here
it was much different, as you saw on the show.
AP: But I I don't. I don't understand. There wasn't just this kind lady caressing your husband, Michelle.
Michelle: I I actually I actually will admit that I I I reached out to Steve on from Spirit Mechanix. I was like, ‘Hey, if the name is brought up and we're on Zoom with them, are we? Okay?’ Like I've shielded and I. We have enough protections layered on the place. So we're good. We're good. But yeah, so that that
Was so weird and just so creepy and just felt like violation like in the shower with my husband, and and I remember him literally saying to me.
“Babe, did you just like stick your hand in the shower like” cause? We have shower doors. It's like, “did you? Were you just messing with me?” And I was like. No.
AP: Feels like a creepy movie where you just see a hand start sliding in while the person is in the water like…
Megan: Like my worst nightmare.
AP: In the water, not paying attention.
Michelle: I'm like, “Yeah, okay, hon”, and then he'd be like “Something. Just grabbed my ankle”. And I was like, no like it. No, it's whatever like, you know.
But it was always something.
Amy L: Yeah, that's creepy.
Megan: Yeah, that was terrible. I did not like that.
[insert sketch]
Michelle: When I saw the picture of of her under my bed, I was like, that makes so much sense.
Megan: That was the creepiest photo, too, like And when Steve was talking or not, Steve, but Amy was talking about how she would like touch your husband. I was like you, gross. No, we do not do that.
Christa: Crazy is that their room always had like you didn't want, If if the light was shut off and you were coming out of the room like you wanted to run out, because it always felt like someone was chasing you or like someone was gonna grab you, lo and behold, they were.
Megan: Like how, when you're little, and you turn the lights off at the bottom of the stairs, and you run up because the monsters will 100% get you if you don't.
Christa: Yes, exactly.
AP: We talked about that recently.
Amy L: Yeah, I think it was just the last episode. I think we talked about that. In fact, that’s on our Bingo card. Yeah. Yup.
Michelle: Bingo, card.
Megan: We have a Bingo card, for like…
AP: We’ve watched enough of the episodes that you start picking up like.
Megan: Common tropes, and you know things that are in their like dream home. And someone's gonna die and.
AP: Marriage is gonna get split up. Yeah. Was it the dogs.
Michelle: Sorry for not for nothing. It really is my dream property, and not for nothing we.. But what's so weird is how it all came to be that we're here.
Because I found the house like we decided we were gonna look for a house and fine whatever. So he he's out playing poker with the guys. And I'm like, you know, waiting up for him. And I'm just scrolling online all the different real estate, you know the houses. And I came across this property, and I was like, that house iskind of dilapidated. But it's on an acre, and we can fix it up.
And so I showed it to him when he got home, and he was like, Well, I'll drive by tomorrow because we were gonna take, you know. Cause typically, you downsize as your kids get older, we upsize because we consolidated everything.
Megan: I did, too. Yeah, they moved into a big house, and I'm like, “really, you couldn't have lived in this with my brother. And I were growing up?”
We had to like touch each other as we passed in the hall. Eww.
Michelle: We were in a 3 bedroom, one bath for 20 years!
Megan: How are you all still alive, is what I need to know.
Christa: The bigger question is, how do we all still love being around each other so much that we all live on the same property.
AP: Because you were so stuck together. I I understand that aspect.
Megan: You're like we've been this close for this long, eh!
Christa: Exactly exactly.
But it was. It was weird with the house, to my mom's point of like there were so many things, and we had not we? It was seeming like we weren't going to get the house and property multiple times. And then something would happen where it just worked out that we moved here, and then when we moved in, there were just a lot of weird things about the property, whether it was things that we would find in the yard, or it was just all around, like there's just been so many synchronicities.
Weird things that have happened that we definitely were meant to be here. Whether it was because the property needed cleansing, and we were the ones to facilitate that like who knows what it is? But it was just. It's one of those things that like, you know, when you're meant to be somewhere.
That's how we feel about this property.
Michelle: Yeah, like, I walked on it for the first. Well, Michael walked on it for the first time, and he was like, “Okay, you need to come and see it.” And then I walked on, and I was like.
Megan: You’re like, this, is it.
Michelle: This is our home like this. It, this, is it. So. Yeah.
AP: No, I love that, and I know we talked about cause dream home was brought up in your episode, and it it's brought up so many times that it just starts to become one of those like, are they telling people to say this is their dream home, because it is difficult to move, and maybe it is part of that cause. Yours felt more like.
Megan: Genuine.
AP: Part of the genuine spiel. But there, like there's other ones that it's like, well, it's our.
Megan: Dream home.
AP: Our dream homes.
Megan: I say that right?
Christa: But then it ends, they go. Yeah, we're gonna move.
Megan: And they never do, and.
AP: And then they don't follow any of the directions.
Amy L: We're still looking for a Chaos Magician.
Christa: Yeah.
Megan: We decided to stay, and there's no more windows on our homes because of all the spirits. But we're fine.
Amy L: It's fine.
Michelle: We’re fine.
Amy L: Everything's fine.
Michelle: Yeah, watching those episodes and listening to the people or listening to Amy, and then tell them like what to do. And then, when they're like. “Hmm, I don't know.”
Megan: I know.
Michelle: Are you freaking, crazy?
Amy L: Why did you call in the first place?
AP: Why did you? Bring them in.
Michelle: Right, right, exactly!
Megan: We always end up screaming at those we always end up screaming, cause we're like, why waste? They're they're wasting time, and they're taking it away from other people who are genuinely interested in getting help. Britney, we get really annoyed when that happens.
AP: And and there's definitely there's definitely a few like the Britney episode, which was from last season.
Megan: I don't know if you watched it.
Michelle: We didn’t.
AP: We didn’t release that episode.
Yeah, there's there's been several that we've seen that are just like, this was a business, and you just wanted to get your business on the show you just wanted, and then you find out that they've had Ghost Hunters or Ghost Adventures, or other paranormal groups, or they entice paranormal groups to come and do investigations at their property.
Megan: Yeah.
Christa: Heartbreaking.
Amy L: That's too bad, cause there's plenty of people that really need help and they get passed over.
AP: Well, what did we find out that there's like 15, some in Amy. You and I were looking at one that had, like one season, had, like 15,000 applications, or something like that.
Christa: Wow
AP: And they pick, thirteen.
Michelle: I mean, we felt very lucky.
Christa: Yeah. Lucky and honored.
Michelle: Honored that they were coming like it was, and and to make it happen, I mean, there we you're talking 4 dogs at that time 4 dogs, 3.
Christa: Yeah, 3 dogs, but one with a severe separation.
Megan: Oh, poor pupper.
AP: I’ve got mine right next to me right now.
Michelle: A parrot, a parrot, a cat and the 5 of us all. Ha! It sounds like a it sounds like a really funny joke.
It's like we all had it. A parrot, 3 dogs and 5 people walk into a walk into a hotel.
Megan: And the receptionist says, “Why, the long face?”
Michelle: And I'm like we've got to get home by, you know, 7:30, 8 o'clock, because the goats got to get fed.
AP: It’s feeding time. You'll have a riot on your hands.
Michelle: We gotta go.
AP: Just give the feed over to them so that they can just be like, Hey, at 7:30. You need to go and feed the critters.
Megan: Amy, if you could just stop your walk for like 10 min and just feed. Just for 5. It's they should really be happy.
Amy L: She would probably be happy to that!
Megan: So when they were like when Amy was walking your house, how many nights did it take? Where did you guys, I mean, were you staying in a hotel, or what kind of was the how did that go.
Michelle: We were there at the hotel just overnight. I forget what time we had to leave here.
Christa: Wasn't very I mean, it really didn't take very long. And and you can really tell Amy knows her stuff.
For anyone who doubts it. I mean she really genuinely knows what she's talking about. She really is gifted.
Megan: She is. It's every time… And we've been doing this now for 2 years, and we've been watching the show for even longer, and like every time she does it. I still am like holy crap.
Michelle: Yeah.
Megan: Like she'll pull out the drawing, and then Steve pulls out the picture, and I'm like it's almost like the the artist drew from the picture like. That's how similar some of them are. And you're like.
Amy L: That’s what my husband thinks is happening because he's a skeptic.
Megan: Your husband's a silly goose. I'm sorry for the language, but.
Amy L: He’s like. “I can't believe you believe that you really believe they don't talk to each other. Are you kidding me?”
Megan: We call him Skeptic Greg.
Michelle: We were here, and I truly believe they did not talk to each other.
Megan: You can tell him that you can tell Greg, “Gregory I was there. He won't believe it.” He'll say you’re lying.
AP: You know, you know the certain ways that work really well? Duct tape.
Megan: We've tried it. I'm not allowed within their house anymore.
Michelle: Oh, my! Gosh!
Amy L: That's not true. I would help you.
Megan: she would.
AP: Except he makes my drinks, so
Amy L:: He’s our bartender.
AP: I’d cut him loose.
Amy L: we cut him some slack.
Megan: I see where it is.
AP: You gotta keep your enemies close.
Amy L: That's right.
AP: Close-er.
Megan: Closer! So, Christa, I know when you were on the show you were talking about Reiki. Are you a a master, a practitioner? What are the different levels? And how do you kind of train for that?
Christa: Yeah. So I, I'm technically a Reiki master. And I got trained in the original gendai Reiki ho, which is like the most traditional by the book literally. You literally get manuals for each level. And I got into it
because of just my history. I wanted to just dive into anything that I was called to that was related to like keeping optimum help, and we had gone to a Reiki session. I forgot who it was with, but we went, and I just like instantly fell in love, and I was like I need to do this, I need to become a Reiki master. So I did that when I was 18 or 19,
and if I'm being honest with you, I don't really practice with it as much. I lean more into just the concept of energy healing in general, more of the natural. What every person is capable of doing just because it feels a little bit freer to me. Reiki.
Not that it has restrictions, or like, puts you in a box because it doesn't. I don't want anyone to take it that way, but there are like certain things that you should are supposed to do with it. And there's a little bit of like secretiveness with the really traditional one, because they want to keep it pure, which I totally understand. But I just don't really resonate with that part of it as much.
And for something like what we went through, it really wasn't gonna do what we needed.
And I knew that I wasn't going to be capable of doing what we needed, because I was still learning, and you know, so I didn't. I did not feel up to the challenge.
Megan: How do you? I mean, do you just like Google like, “how do I be a Reiki” or like, how? What does that? And like you mentioned. You know, manuals that you study? Are there like classes you go to, or do you.
Christa: Yeah, there are like, Weekend workshops, and I happen to know through the hospital that I was treated at, that I volunteered at, and that my mom worked at. We knew a few people who work there who were familiar with Reiki and had plate. They there was a place, not far from where we are that every weekend they do Reiki circles where you can go and get either practice, Reiki, or receive. Reiki and I went to one of their circles first to kind of get a feel and then I was like, “Oh, my”! The 2 ladies who ran, and I was like, I love them.
Do you guys do classes? And she was like, yeah, so I did it relatively back to back with the classes, because really, it's mostly about just getting the attunement going through the manual learning how things work. And it's it's really kind of a simple process.
And a lot of it is, you have to put in the work to practice it and get familiar. And you know, really, hone in on the nuances of the practice like for me. Whenever I do any sort of energy healing, I get hot, so I literally you'll see me like, take my socks off, take my sweater off like, put my hair up, cause I will literally turn red and get hot.
Some people get freezing cold, and their hands are like ice cold to the touch, so it's tuning into that and really honing in on like what your style is. What kind of language do you want to use with it? Because there's certain things that you can say to really like boost up the, you know, energy connection. But it's really more about you just being a catalyst for universal energy versus you doing the healing itself per se.
We're just energy healing that like we're all capable of is more of a little bit more of us doing it and using some of our in a abilities with it. Reiki is very much just like I am open to allowing universal energy to flow through me. So it's a little bit different, but very similar also.
Michelle: Alright, so. So I'm gonna add what Christa is not saying…when she was younger a teenager, we would go to like a crystal shop, and this is when I was working in the hospital, and I'd gotten, you know. into some of you know, looking at some of that I was dabbling, and we would go. We went to this one where this was a man. I think he was a medium, and we sat in the second row, and he had to stop what he was saying, and he was going through this whole story about himself, and and he was reading people, and he had to stop in the middle of reading someone else, and said, I am so sorry, but your light is blinding me about Christa.
Megan: Oh!
Michelle: Yeah, that that happened, and then we would go to the Reiki circles, and they would. You know they we didn't know anything about. Reiki, it was in very beginning. And their hands, you know, you put your hands and and they're like we couldn't even get near
Christa like their hands had to be like out here, like she's just so spiritually and divinely large.
Christa: Yeah, I had someone walk up to me. I don't. I don't. Even. It was just some random place.
She walked up to me. And this is actually a detriment. So if you are a healer, don't do this to people, cause it's it's taken a lot of work to work through, and I'm still working on it.
She walked up to me and was like, your heart is way too open. You need to close that down a little bit, because I just from here I can tell already that you're way too open, and that's going to be harmful for you, so you need to learn to shut that down.
Megan: Aggressive.
Michelle: A little bit.
Amy L: I'm Yeah.
Christa: Like 13 or 14, so I had no idea.
Amy L: You’re like, ‘what are you even talking about?”
Christa: What any of that meant.
Michelle: Yeah, yeah.
Christa: Don't do that.
Megan: Don't do that. That's like.
Christa: That's terrible advice.
Megan: Yeah, Hi, little girl and stranger, I've never met before. BT-dubs.
Michelle: Shut your heart down.
Megan: Shut it down. Okay, shut it down. You’re here. I'm gonna need you here.
Christa: Literally though. I was like I was so taken aback when she said that to me. But yeah, I mean that was. And so that, you know, looking back. it's like, Oh, now I get it? Why, all these other things have happened. Got it.
Megan: Yeah. But maybe approach a child a little differently.
Christa: Yeah, maybe. Don't say that.
Michelle: Yeah, yeah, make sure they're ready for that kind of information.
Megan: that's heavy.
Amy L: So you mentioned all, all your various abilities. What? What exactly, like, Michelle I guess we could start with you. What or whatever you wanna share again. I forgot to say that in the beginning, whatever you guys want to share. If you don’t want to share something let us know, it’s fine.
Michelle: Yeah. So I I never realized that what I have or what I do was an ability. I I never thought of it as a gift. I just thought of it as who I am. One I've always been able to take really…this isn't a PG show, right?...
Megan: Oh god no.
Amy L: You can say whatever you want.
Michelle: I've been able to take really shitty situations and turn them around and make them into something good, or see the good in them, or be able to then advocate for others in the same situation or going through the same situation. So hence alchemy, you know, makes sense right? And so the other thing is just being really intuitive.
And what I've realized is I can talk to somebody, and I can see them in their pure form with all the shit that's on top of them. You know the limiting beliefs and the stories they tell themselves like I can. I can truly get to the core and talk them through making decisions from that place. Not their fear based.
And so I've really been able to tap into that. And I've been working with the team, with with Steve and the spare mechanics. I'm an alchemy apprentice under Steve. I have, you know, dived into metaphysics and just really learning about how to figure this stuff out and doing the energy work, not realizing Chris Krista's the Reiki master.
But I can do some pretty cool stuff with energy that I never thought I could do, but then realized that I can do. I can walk into a room, and if I'm in a not chaotic mood, or chaotic space. I can calm things, but I can also walk in and be the tornado and be the chaos. It just depends on what's needed.
But it's been even for me talking about it. It's I don't talk about it a lot. So it's, you know. It's kind of my debutante party here. Coming out a little and and talking about it just because I've I have been doing a lot of work for like the last year and a half 2 years with Steve and we would not have met Steve if it hadn't been for this property, if it had not been for Dead Files. If it had not been for the creepy woman under the bed.
Megan: So are you guys? Oh, I'm so sorry.
Michelle: No go ahead!
Megan: Are you guys? Then, like, still in contact with Steve and Amy.
Michelle: Not Steve and Amy…
Christa: Oh, not …yeah
AP: Different Steve.
Michelle: Steve from Spirit Mechanix
Megan: Oh, okay. Got it.
Amy L: Who, by the way, we are interviewing next week.
Megan: Next week,
Amy L: Next Monday.
Christa: You guys are gonna love them.
Amy L: Even know who all is gonna be there but
Megan: Doesn’t matter
Amy L: Really excited.
Christa: They are unbelievable.
Michelle: Yeah. So Steve Smith and I have the same birthday, too. So I we I joke with them, and I tell him I'm I'm his older sister, but it really feels like I'm his little sister but I tell them that we're like birthday twins.
Megan: That's cute.
Michelle: Yeah,
Megan: when's your birthday?
Michelle: April third, Wednesday.
AP: Happy, belated birthday. Sam as my aunt.
Megan: Happy Belated birthday
Amy L: Happy Birthday.
Michelle: Thank you. Oh, really.
Megan: It's nice.
Michelle: Lots of fiery people are born on April third.
Amy L: Nice. Yeah, that's Aries, right?
Michelle: Yeah, yeah. Yes, yes, I'm Aries and Christa’s a Libra, which is why.
AP: So are the 3 of us!
Megan: Libras unite.
AP: Actually I get to also claim Scorpio, cause I'm a cusp.
Christa: Okay.
Amy L: 21st
Megan: Libra, fully Libra.
Christa: I'm a Scorpio Mars, which I've read is like Scorpio Sun times 10 million. So. That's a fun article to read. But to answer your question also on my end of gifts. Well, I'll mention my dad's first. He is very much a channeler and intuitive knower. So he'll get he'll literally channel guides and give you the craziest information.
Megan: Wow!
Christa: A few weeks later, or gives you information of stuff that you need to know. Yeah, it's really about he. He is still kind of refining that ability. But that's his. My brother is.
AP: Sounds like my dad a little bit, Amy and Megan. I have stories I haven't told you.
Christa: Oh, Snap! Well.
Michelle: So before you go into your brother, don't forget, and he can. My husband can also like. If you have a pain in your shoulder.
Christa: Oh, yeah.
Michelle: Has this like intuitive sense where he can. He can see colors as he's, you know, kind of, you know.
Christa: Press the spot, and it'll pop.
Michelle: Yeah, and and he'll he'll be able to follow the line, the orange or the red line down to where it actually is. Is, cause the the root of the problem, and then he'll like, push on it or do something, and then everything will feel better. And you're like, How the hell. Do you know how to do that? He's like I have no idea.
Christa: Yeah, its’ really incredible.
AP: Wow
Amy L: Wow, I could use that sometimes.
Michelle: Yeah. It does
AP: My dad doesn't do that part, but the the story part is another.
Christa: My brother is a very, very strong empath, and he's still developing that as well. But he really, I mean empath kind of gets thrown around a lot. But he truly like, is the epitome of what an empath is. It can be very taxing. So it takes a lot of like grounding, and everything that goes along with that which, luckily my sister in law is an incredible grounding rod. She is unbelievable in that sense.
And then for me, I also have the intuitive knowingness. I'll get a lot of downloads. I also have premonition dreams. I can interpret dreams which goes along with Tarot and that intuitive knowing like, I'll just get information and download, and it'll be spot on exactly what it is.
I can feel energy, and also to go along with like what the people in the past have said to me on un-asked for. I definitely will one. I need to work on this, and I am working on this, but I tend to be a sponge. So like for example, I've gone to a New Year energy clearing ceremony, and I soaked up everybody's stuff that they were releasing and had to leave immediately. So in a way, you know that's helpful for some people, but not so much for me. But I also can project energy in the past entirely unintentional. To the point of like when you know when you walk in a store. And all of a sudden, like the everyone moves in a different direction and view kind of thing.
And there's a lot more that uncovers kind of like every day. There's definitely more that's untapped. My dad likes to say that when I'm happy The sun shines, and when I'm sad it rains, kind of thing. So that's gonna be interesting to develop and really figure out what that means.
Michelle: She gets angry, the Internet goes down and lights flash and.
Christa: Yeah, I have a little bit of PK going on, so.
Amy L: Oh, yeah, it sounds like it.
Michelle: Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Amy L: Wow! Colorful home.
Michelle: Yeah, and Michael also can Michael Anthony also he picks up on things, too, which is what happened when he was younger, that I wasn't aware that we weren't aware of.
As far as the the voices, the the talking, and it wasn't, you know, a mental thing. It was people talking to them. You know things happening around them and just not understanding.
You know what that was or what that meant. I mean, I remember when he said, “There's this little boy, and he comes to play with me at night, and and he stands in my corner” and I was like.
What it's like, okay. Well, you know, “I'm sure he's a very nice ghost like Casper.”, I I didn't know back then. You know, just like the little old lady that sat on Christa's bed and covered her with a blanket. I was like that must have been my Yaya, I am my great grandmother. So I you know I didn't know.
You don't know what you don't know, but you know what I think. The the the rule of thumb here is what what everyone that's listening should always remember is, if your kids are saying things like that, like you know, don't take them to a therapist or anything. Just maybe do some investigation. Ask questions.
Christa: Don't always assume it's bad, either.
Michelle: Right.
Christa: A lot of people especially when it comes to paranormal instantly. Go! Oh, it's something bad
Living in our other house for 20 years. None of us really ever felt threatened. We got scared a few times, because, you know, something unexpected was happening, but I mean we would see beautiful light silhouettes of someone standing in a corner. You, you know, you'd hear someone's voice, and it is very possible that things can just be looking out for you. And and you know.
Michelle: I remember the guy in the overalls that walked past our window at the old house and I. We were all like, what the hell was that like, I didn't even remember that until just now. But yeah, I remember that that was very. It was like,
I'm aging myself. But Captain Kangaroo used to have Mr. Blue jeans or green jeans.
Amy L: Mr. Green Jeans and I had a crush on Mr. Green Jeans.
Michelle: That's that's yeah. I think I did, too. And that's and that's what it reminded us of, like it was. Oh, that was like Mr. Green Jeans, like. Hmm. Interesting.
Amy L: Did you ever figure out who it was?
Michelle: Nope? There is nobody there. There's nobody out there but but but you know.
Amy L: But you know, like what's his spirit was, or who he was in life.
Michelle: No cause we didn't. We didn't investigate back then. Yeah, we didn't. We didn't know we did. We were watching Zak at that time, so we thought we knew a lot. We would listen.
AP: We’ve all fallen in that trap.
Megan: We’ve all been there.
Michelle: Yeah. No, I know, I re, I do know, like at this house, I remember there were many times where we would.
We would hear the creeks and the the knocks, and we would test it. We'd be, you know. Oh, ‘if you're there, knock once’ and the frickin’ thing would knock, and we're like “oh, shit”, you know. Don't! Don't! Don't be! Don't be like that, please God, don't! Don't be like that.
Megan: And then you're like shit, we don't know what to do. Now this is as far as we got in Ghost Adventures.
Michelle: Okay, cool. If you're if you're benevolent, knock once.
Christa: And don't ever invite anything in. Don't ever ask them to show you anything. Or do
Michelle: Oh my god!
Christa: or take it from somebody else. Don't do that.
Michelle: And if you find anything buried on the property for the love of all things.
Christa: Leave it. Cover it up.
Michelle: Not open it because you're curious at what is underneath the sealed honey.
AP: Is is that a.
Megan: Is that a personal? Yeah, I feel like, that's
Christa: Yes, it is a personal anecdote.
Megan: A little too specific to be just a plain warning.
Michelle: We would just say that someone on the property, not on this show happened to find a bottle of something.
AP: Was it Michael Anthony?
Michelle: And opened it, because he was very curious.
Christa: We didn’t… you know, we don’t always know better until we know better.
Michelle: And then Christa did a lot of research and found what to say, and he remembered where he dug it up from.
Christa: No, no! The team helped us with that. When they came.
Michelle: Well, yeah, we thought we had taken care of it.
Christa: Oh, yeah.
Michelle: Team came and we're like, Yeah, you didn't do it completely.
Amy L: That's the thing. If you don't know what you're doing. And you, you know, try. And I mean, I don't know for personal, but from watching shows and talking to people. Yeah, you kinda gotta know what you're doing or could make things worse.
Michelle: Yeah, yeah.
Christa: Sometimes it's just, you know. It's not even that sometimes. Yes, you can make it a lot worse. And then other times your intentions in the right place, so it's like you put a band aid on it. But the bandage.
Michelle: Right.
Christa: A lot of water damage and then lose it some of its stickiness. And now the Band-aid's ready to come off, and then, when the band aid comes up, comes off it not happy.
AP: Least, you went with water damage on the band aid. And
Christa: Well you know how you take a shower and wears down.
AP: I'm more of my mom's a nurse. So I'm in the more of the like. Okay, so you're using a bandage or over an artery, and it's just not working.
Michelle: No, you're hemorrhaging out. Yeah, it's not good.
Amy L: So. One question I thought of is that that we ask most people that are on the show is from the time that you sent in your request to The Dead Files. How long was it before they were at your house, recording.
Christa: I don't even know if I remember that, but I don't think it was very long.
Amy L: Okay, I, sometimes it’s like 2 years.
Christa: No, it was not. It was, it was pretty quick. And then, even from the time The Dead Files crew left to the Spirit Mechanix were getting here. It was just a matter of coordinating travel. Plans like it all happened very quickly.
Amy L: Yeah, I think you were lucky that you got Spirit Mechanix, because I know that Amy has referred them before, and they, you know, didn't make it in time, or didn't, or the family gave up, or something, because they were so busy.
Christa: Yeah.
Amy L: So I was lucky that you got to have them.
Michelle: Yeah, they're amazing. There it were like they say they don't get clients. They get family like they make you family, and
Megan: that’s Really, sweet.
Michelle: I mean the aftercare still continues. He still checks in, and he'll message me out of the blue.
Y'all good, or Steve, y'all good, and it. And I'm like, How did you know? How did? How did you know things were a little unsettled? There was a you know, and a disturbance in the force, and they they just the aftercare, the before care.
I mean, because there was a a little bit of a gap before they could get here. And so they spent so much time with us on the phone, just really understanding what it was that was going on, what we needed, getting to know us.
Christa: What stuff we could put in place to help.
Michelle: Yeah.
Christa: Could get there, which was crucial.
Megan: Oh, nice!
Michelle: Yes, there were some protections we absolutely had to put in Christa's room. There were some things that we had to put in in our bedroom.
And when they came they were ready.
Megan: Nice. That's awesome.
Michelle: They needed. And yeah, I don't. I think they told us to accumulate a couple of little things, but it wasn't much.
Megan: So so, since the kind of initial work with them, what's the activity level been like in your house?
Christa: It's I'll put it this way. The activity that is here has a completely different energetic resonance.
a complete opposite end of the spectrum. Everything that does that is, here is light
and of white light, and had pure intentions.
And we have made some friends with things that are here to also enhance the protection of the property as well, because the property itself is also a beacon that attracts things in.
So not only do we have to continuously just kind of keep. We have to clean regularly, freshen things up. But we have some friends that also keep an eye out for us.
Amy L: Aw
Megan: So sweet.
Christa: Yeah.
Michelle: Yeah. And now we get to do the same. not to that. Like not to Spirit Mechanix. Because I always. I'm like Steve. I I think I have a a referral for you. You know, it's like, yeah, but for the little things like, if somebody is feeling off because they went to the Renaissance festival, or before they go to the Renaissance.
Christa: They brought they bought something while they were.
Michelle: And they bought something there, or they bought something from an antique store, or they, you know, just like crazy stuff that people will buy and think is really cool, and you're like, no.
Amy L: Like a mirror?
Michelle: Yeah.
Christa: I don’t think anyone around us has done that lately.
Michelle: Oh my god, Our freaking mirrors were full. That was one of the things that they had to do. Oh, my God!
Christa: The mirror placement, too? Yeah.
Megan: Did you have 2 mirrors facing each other?
Christa: In one of the rooms we did.
Megan: Yeah. Amy had that that was not.
Amy L: I still do. It's in my bathroom. They're they're on the wall. They're part of the wall. Came like it's like that. When we moved in and a friend of ours who's a medium. She saw.
Megan: She listens to the show.
Amy L: Yeah, we were on a happy hour. She's one of our Patrons, and we were on a Zoom happy hour, and she's like, “don't mean to freak you out, Amy, but behind you there is there I just there's steady stream of people walking out of your bathroom.”
Megan: And I'd be like fail for not freaking me out like
Amy L: I was like, “my husband just came down the stairs was it him?” She's like “no sorry.”
Michelle: No, no, no.
Megan: So. No, I'd be like, thank Zoey. But no, thank you, please.
Amy L: So now I have to smudge the mirrors the corners of the mirrors, and say, only good people or only good spirits, are welcome here. I'll bad people must leave. That every 2 weeks I do that.
Megan: Has she? Has you? Have you done a zoom with her since that? Has she? Does she know if it's improved.
Amy L: After I did all the cleaning, she had me clean, like all the mirrors first, and then do the.
Megan: Windex.
Amy L: Smudging. with Webex with, and then all the smudging, and open the window, and all that, and then she asked me to take a picture of it afterwards and show it to her. And I just did a video instead, and I sent it to her. And she's like it looks great. Everything looks great.
Michelle: That's wonderful!
Christa: I just wanna make a note for any of your very aware viewers. My brother and sister-in-law did just walk by this window. Not entities. So for anyone that's looking closely, there really were 2 people that just.
Megan: I didn’t even notice.
Michelle: Oh that’s great, that’s so funny. I remember so similar to your story, Amy. When the one person that contacted us from Spirit Mechanix the first time Holly. I was in my office which is a shed that's been built out like a She Shed.
Megan: She shed.
Michelle: Yeah, she should, and and sh! She like goes. Ex excuse me, and she starts yelling and like, “you need to back off. And you need to like.,,” She went off, and I was like.
Christa: Shut up, like Be quiet!
Michelle: Yeah, “shut up, be quiet. I'm not talking to you”, and I was like .
Megan: Into your She Shed?
AP: Me talking my dogs on a normal basis.
Michelle: Hell. And she was like, “Oh, no, there's there's there's there's stuff around you. And I needed to put them in their place.” And I was like. “Okay, alright, sure. Wait. When? How soon can you guys get here?”
Megan: She wasn't even there?
Michelle: No, she would. We were on Zoom, and that's the thing the Spirit Mechanix. They did so much work prior to getting here that they knew exactly what to expect when they got here. I mean they they had some surprises, but they had said, there's something about a brick wall like a a stone wall, and we're like a stone wall. There's no stone wall. What are you talking about? When they got here? It was a wall of stones that bordered you know, a part of the property in the back, and that's where some of the work needed to be taken. Take place.
Christa: There's also a lot more here than even the show was able to cover. I mean Amy's here, you know, for a brief amount of time, but the team being able to not only talk to us and be able to tune into the property and what was going on, but really spending the time, cause they were here for a few days as well. But all of the time they were able to spend here they were really able to tune into what exactly was happening, and refine some of the findings so like really get clear on what it was. The other thing about
the paranormal, and they can be very tricksy. And you know.
AP: Who knew.
Christa: Itself a certain way, and you don't necessarily know any different until you really died and grab it by the root. And then you realize. Oh, it's that times 10. So it was even worse than we even knew, which is why they were like no, you need to. The first conversation we had. They had us do stuff like immediately, because it was even worse than we anticipated.
Megan: Yeah, wow.
AP: That was a question that I was gonna ask is, if there was things that came through in the revealed that maybe didn't match the show quite well, or were talked about more in the revealed than wherever put in the show. So we've had, for example, one of our clients that we talked with they in the Reveal. We're trying to make a spirit of an old woman seem like a really bad person. And they're like, Yeah, that wasn't her. There was another ghost, but they just or another spirit. They just didn't talk about that other person.
And so they tried to connect to pieces that didn't quite fit, which we all felt.
Christa: Hmm.
Michelle: Hmm!.
AP: And The that spirit that they were talking about and trying to make her look like she was the bad guy. Her living children were quite upset about the episode.
Michelle: Oh, I'm sure.
Christa: Oh, gosh! That's rough! I don't think there was anything that there was any discrepancy so much as like what was in their room was more of a shape shifter, and so it it. It probably just showed itself how it wanted to be.
But the reality of it was that it was actually affecting all of us very negatively, and had the ability to shift and shape itself into what would be appealing to each of us.
So that's kinda you know. But everything else.
Michelle: There's also a succubus, I mean, let's.
Christa: I wasn’t gonna throw that word around. But yes, I mean, yeah to be frank…
Michelle: I mean. I’m sorry. Well, I mean.
Christa: Yeah. Which really does fit the profile that they gave, though when you think about you know the shower and the ehhh all that stuff.
Michelle: Yeah, I mean, you know, “she got to go”. I'm just saying.
Christa: Yeah, you know. So it was really more of a matter.
Amy L: She gotta go.
Megan: Bitch get out, that’s my man.
Michelle: And and and what she was trying to do. I mean, you know, in your room the the one that they didn't talk about a lot that there was a lot of activity cause Michael would go out to a shop, or, you know, have to check the water filter system sprinklers.
Christa: Her husband Michael, not my brother.
Michelle: Yes, my husband, Michael versus Michael Anthony. Whole story, but a different episode. So he would go in the back, and he would feel like there was someone coming up on him like, you know, like.
And it would, and they talked about it, and they talked to Michael about it back there, and I don't even know if some of that was in the episode, but not the extent of that conversation.
But He it was definitely whatever they you know, the the guy that committed suicide would like that. All that. We looked into it, too, and we found it, you know. I mean it. It did happen. And the I believe we found a picture or something.
Christa: I found Something. Yeah.
Michelle: Yeah. And we were like, Oh, yeah, it does make sense. Yeah.
AP: Yeah, Amy, you and I tried to look that one up.
Amy L: Yeah.
Michelle: Cause that he, Because okay, so Dade and Broward county are very close together. I don't even I mean, it's you can drive of maybe 3 miles, and you're in Day County. So if you.
I think when I was watching the episode, I was like, Wait, you guys are looking in the wrong place, cause he lived in Dade County. But the drive is not far.
So if he wanted to get away coming out and back. Then where we live was a bunch of cow pastures, and like you couldn't drive out this far certain roads when I was a kid, which is about when that happened.
So you know I so it was out there.
Amy L: Hmm.
Christa: The other thing, too, is again. Our property is sort of like a beacon, and then, all of us being here amplified it. So if there's anything roaming it's going to try to find its way here. So that's.
Megan: And it's like, Wait a minute. I want to go hang out with these people.
Michelle: Yeah.
Amy L: They can see me.
Michelle: Which is why we have the protections up that we do. And yeah.
Christa: And and the team is sort of, you know, while they were here they sort of trained us all a little bit on protecting ourselves, and how to use our powers, what to look into, to grow them. And you know, and they're they're really accessible for questions which is nice.
So like as things come up for me or any of us, we can reach out to them and say, Hey, could you take a look at this? Or this is what I'm sensing. Am I on the money, or you know, where? Where does that fall? And then they'll kind of give me some feedback. So that's nice, too.
Megan: That’s awesome that It’s such a continuing relationship. It's not just transactional like, okay, we're here. This is what you do. Okay, by now, like, that's really nice.
Christa: And I'm sure it it has to do with. You know both the both parties cause I'm sure you could have it be relatively transactional where they come and do their thing, and then you're like, I don't want to dive into anything going on with me. I'm done. We're good. We're just gonna live our life but because all of us have that interest in it as well. I think that's help facilitate that ongoing relationship.
AP: I. I'm a firm believer about the those connection points that you have with somebody like. Sometimes you meet somebody, and you feel like you've known them for forever or like you're just like, Oh, I can. I can talk to you about stuff, and you're not gonna well, maybe you'll judge me later. But you're not gonna judge me in the moment. Kind of thing.
Megan: I judge you the way everybody should, behind your back.
AP: Exactly.
Michelle: I do. Wanna go back to one thing, just because.
Megan: Please.
Michelle: I'm the Protect. I feel like I'm always the Protector and. As far as tr Spirit Mechanix and transactional.
They will come and they will help you. They don't ask for anything other than travel, because they just need help to get there.
Megan: That's wonderful!
Michelle: And That's how real they are. And if you want to donate, then that money gets put aside for the next family that can't pay for their travel.
AP: That's awesome.
Michelle: But they still need to help and that's when you know that you have real people like.
Megan: I was just gonna say, that's how you know that they're genuine. They're not trying to scam you. They're not trying to make money.
Michelle: Absolutely not.
AP: Tell Greg to put that in his pipe.
Megan: Yeah, Greg. Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
Amy L: I'll tell him.
Michelle: And I I think that that's how real people. Yeah, that's how real teams function, I would hope. Go ahead, Christa. Sorry.
Christa: I was just gonna say they also have, like they have a whole website where they they have they sell different tarot cards and crystals, and they have classes and stuff. So if anyone is interested in supporting them that they don't have a house that's haunted that they need to look into, they do have classes.
Megan: First of all, go buy one, and then.
Michelle: Go by a house. Get haunted. Invite them in.
AP: Ask the realtor, Is this haunted.
Christa: You don’t have to seek out haunted houses.
Megan: Play with the Ouija board.
Christa: You don’t have to do that.
Megan: Play with the Ouija Board, Willy nilly
Michelle: Don’t do that! Don’t listen!
AP: Your $12.99 demons.
Megan: I know I'm teasing everybody hopefully.
Amy L: Yeah, that’s a joke, you guys. We do not condone playing with the No-No Board.
Megan: We do not endorse Ouiji boards in any way, shape or form. They're bad.
Michelle: But even on there they have Thursday lives, and you can go on there, and they'll answer questions. If you think you have a problem in your house. They'll an you know they'll you ask them. You tell them the story, and they'll say, like, ‘we'll contact you tomorrow’, or or, you know, like, try this, you know, but it's always the little things. But you know.
Megan: I see a 3 headed dog in my living room like, what do I do?
Michelle: Don't try to sage it, because that ain't gonna work. It's just gonna tick it off. Okay.
Christa: Yeah, that the greatest thing they ever they said to us was like, well, you know, we have Sage. And Steve was like, Yeah, sage isn't gonna do much for this. You need to get black salt. You need to get sweet grass. You need to get Palo Santo ASAP. And some other things that we'll talk about later.
Megan: Like, yeah, you're way beyond Sage. You're like. Sage won't…just season your chicken with it.
Christa: Basically! They're like, that's just gonna aggravate it.
AP: Oh are we having thanksgiving dinner?
Christa: Gonna be like an allergic reaction for it, just be more pissed off.
Megan: They’re like take it and make us a chicken dinner with some stuffing, and then when we get there, we'll talk about what you need to do cause It's not sage.
Michelle: Yes.
Christa: Honestly, though, yeah. And it's so crazy. Because that's what most people think is the first line of defense and the amount of conversations I've had, which was like, well, I'll get some sage, and I'm like, Yeah let me send you some Palo Santo. Let me hook you up with some holy water, some sweet grass, some black water.
Megan: I got a connection. I'm gonna hook you up with holy water. Don't tell anybody where you got it from, not on the up and up. But I'm gonna get you.
Michelle: I was. I was just gonna like pan over to my little area over here, where I have all my smudging herbs.
Christa: I'm going to say the time we went to the Greek church and ask for holy water, and the priest was like, Oh, holy water! What do you need that for? We were like…things.
Megan: You're like dangit!
Amy L: Do you really want to know?
Michelle: I just need whole like, why, why do you have to know everything like I'm not coming for confession. I just want
AP: If you just look over there really quick, ‘Christa, go get it.’
Megan: “I have a question about what's going on on the wall. Christa! Can you just go into? What is this, Christa? Go now? Can you just go.”
Michelle: There’s a bucket.
Christa: Who knew that people were so crazy and held the holy water so dear, I mean, yeah.
Megan: It's like they're like, here, fill out these 3 forms. I'm gonna need 2 forms of ID and a blood sample.
Christa: I swear that’s what it felt like.
AP: Gonna need a lien on your House.
Christa: Hi Louie.
AP: I was gonna say I heard. I thought I heard puppies, and do you still have a bird?
Megan: I hear a bird.
Christa: Yeah, like.
Michelle: Yeah.
Christa: My parrot is outside usually spend the night in the She Shed, but.
Megan: What kind of bird is it? Cause I'm really scared of birds.
Christa: It's a Mealy parrot, a Mealy Amazon parrot. So he's bright green, and his name is Booger, and he's hilarious, but so annoying, and I love him so dearly. But, my goodness, does he not shut up.
Amy L: Yeah.
Megan: Their beaks are so sharp.
Christa: Yeah, I have a scar in my hand, but it's my fault, not his.
Megan: Right, but like they could take my finger off.
Christa: I mean. That's what can be said about the goat, too, like. Knucklehead sprained my ankle a year and a half ago. But again, my fault, not his.
Megan: OK but, goats don't have a pointy beak.
AP: No but they have. They can have horns.
Amy L: Horns
Christa: His horn got caught on my foot and literally like he, body slammed me.
Megan: So you're saying goats are horny, is what I'm hearing.
Michelle: Yes! Oh yes. That’s how we have nine in a year!
Megan: Sorry. I'm sorry, Christa. I'm sorry. I'll just stay inside with my cats.
Christa: Wise choice was.
Michelle: And just because I wanna, I wanna have some fun. So like, you know, let's play that carnival game like, how old do you think Christa is?
Christa: So well, there was some jokes about it on the one, our episode.
Amy L: We did yeah.
Megan: Oh, my God! I was listening to that today, and I'm like, Oh, my God! I hope Christa doesn't get offended because I'm “like she looks 12, Steve.”
Amy L: We’re like “Steve didn’t even give the hanky to the ten year old.
Michelle: I know!
Megan: I was very upset for you that he did not give you a hanky.
Michelle: So was I, to be honest.
Amy L: Yeah.
Megan: I was like, “Steven!”
Christa: This is what I'm talking about with my energy, though he probably felt my energy of like I very much when I'm upset. I'm I'm very much like. Don't right now. Just let me like get it out. So it very well is probably he Got that from me and was like, Yeah, I'm not gonna.
Megan: He did redeem himself in the reveal. When he gave you the hanky.
AP: After he threw her under the bus.
Megan: Oh, God! I was so mad at him, too.
Christa: Which part?
AP: When he was like well, this is Christa, she does Reiki …
Megan: This is way over her head, and I'm like Steven. Don't be a Dick.
AP: There was, there was a better way.
Megan: Yeah.
AP: That you could have said that.
Michelle: Wait, what’s so funny is Christa said the same thing, so she probably had said that to him, and then that’s why he repeated it.
Christa: Yeah, it very well could have been. It's really hard to like. It's really hard to treat yourself like. I am terrible reading Tarot. For myself, cause I get my head about it. I would not have been able to do anything here.
Megan: I was like Steven. She's 12. Be nice to her, just kidding, Christa. I'm just kidding.
Michelle: Go ahead. But yeah.
Christa: I know, I know.
AP: Okay. So I'm going with you were. So you said you started, reiki, when you were 18 or 19 when you were on the show was in 2019 and so I guess.
Megan: I’m going to say 25.
AP: I'm going to say like 29.
Megan: I say 25. Amy?
Amy L: I was gonna say, like 25. So let, I'll just go 24, cause I can't say the same…
Megan: Who’s closest, without going over.
Christa: Amy without the L is closest. Oh, wait without going over. Well, she's I'm 28, but I'll be 29 in October.
Megan: She did say so I win, so I win.
AP:. Didn't say it was Price Is Right rules, Megan, until after we guessed!
Megan: I did!
AP: You don't get to say it in your head, and make it be real.
Megan: I win. A billion dollars.
Christa: Basically, I am just touched that you all said over 20, because when I was like 18, someone in a CVS once was like, oh, are you having fun in middle school? And I'm like, I'm an adult.
Oh, I just remember, too, you guys on on the Episode Review speaking of me.
AP: We're just gonna keep talking about you. Christa.
Megan: My favorite topic, me.
Christa: It's really not, though I do have to say that. No, but you guys were curious about my diagnosis. And you guys going back and forth about what it was, and I oh, I gotta remember to talk about it, because I'm sure the viewers probably also work.
Megan: She's our new AP, and yelling at us.
Christa: So neuro makes it very confusing. It was not brain related at all. It was, I know, I know.
Megan: I mean yay for you. I I don't, you know yay, for you.
Christa: Tell you they once printed it in a pamphlet for a Children's Hospital, that it was a neuro cancer. And I was like, Are you kidding me like you didn't do basic research. But anyway, it was. I had a tumor on my adrenal gland. Good call, Amy. And then it spread into my right leg or across my abdomen into my right leg. And it was very aggressive. 3% chance of survival.
Amy L: Yikes!
Megan: We are so glad that you did survive. We are so so glad.
Christa: Thank you, me too.
Megan: We’re best friends. You don't know that, but we are.
Michelle: Very impressed with the the research that Amy without an L did, because.
Megan: AP
Michelle: Sorry, AP. And and the fact that A and the story that you shared about your friend, and so I it was very touching, so.
AP: Thank you. Yeah, that that's going back to that logic side, like I have to be able to like. I'm like, I know, I know about this, and it's not connected the way people think it's connected. And so.
Michelle: Yeah.
AP: Cause. Neural. Yeah, definitely gives you that brain or nervous system tie in. Okay, who are the blondies behind you? Michelle.
Michelle: Okay. So this is this is Louie. He's the newest..
Megan: Hi.
AP: Gonna say, is he? Is he under 2?
Michelle: He’s a year old.
Christa: Just turned one.
Megan: What a good boy!
Christa: Scared of everything.
AP: Aw.
Amy L: Oh!
Michelle: Yes, and he he was so scared of balloons for my birthday that he fell in the pool, and it was very.
Megan: Poor baby!
AP: He and Wesley could be best friends, but Wesley just barks at everything.
Michelle: Yeah, no, he doesn't. He? He gets.
Christa: Louis just runs for cover.
Michelle: Yeah, and.
Megan: Same same. Well, I walk fastly. I don't run, but I waddle.
Michelle: I like that word, fastly. And then Max is 8 years old. He's my golden retriever, that is, 100 pounds.
Megan: Oh my God.
Michelle: Louie’s brother. So we half brother, so we can only imagine how big he's going to get. And not only did Steve from Dead Files fall in love with him. But Keith from Spirit Mechanix fell in love with him, and I think they had communications because he yeah, he told Keith, like “I like to be called a good boy.”
We didn’t tell him that we call him a good boy.
Megan: He is a good boy.
Christa: He actually might. I add he didn't just say he likes to be called a good boy, he said. He incessantly. Just kept saying, “I'm a good boy. I'm a good boy. I'm a good boy.”
AP: He has golden retriever energy is what you're saying. Yeah, yeah.
Christa: He is “Doug” from “Up”.
Michelle: And so, yeah, so Keith has since sent him a blanket, because. He had a he had a friend that was a blanket, and the dog, not Keith.
Megan: Well Keith might too. You don't know his life. We're not judging.
Christa: No judgement.
Michelle: And and Max was. He would share his blanket, but his blanket but his blanket was his girlfriend. And so it was kind of weird, because he’d be like “Here”, and it would be like, and you'd be like it would be like, Oh, yeah.
Amy L: Oh!
Megan: Ew gross.
Michelle: Him a new girlfriend. And yeah.
Megan: How the old girlfriend take that that, can cause a lot of tension.
Christa: It went in the garbage, is how she took it.
Michelle: Yeah, she went in the garbage cause Max likes to tear apart his fabrics. He has to meet you at the door with dish towels, so.
Megan: Sure.
Michelle: Yeah, that's that's Max. That's.
Megan: Good boy.
Michelle: And the dog that we talked about that would see things. That was Sophie. And Sophie was actually at our other house with us as well. And yeah.
Christa: You would see things there too.
Michelle: Yeah. And yeah. And so she would just stare and like, follow.
Megan: Hate it.
Christa: Cool was she. So she passed 2 years ago in February, actually on Louie’s birthday a year later.
But she was actually very often my gauge, for if I was actually hearing or seeing something, because one of the side effects of my treatment when I was younger was, I have hearing loss, so there's certain frequencies I literally can't hear.
And sometimes there'll be sounds that are like just on the cost of me being able to hear them. So like I'll feel something, and I'll be like I think there might be a sound, and especially at the old house, but this one, too.
Sometimes I would hear like a heavy breathing, but I couldn't really tell. Like, am I just hearing something? And I would look to her and see like, how is she reacting? And she would perk up and start like looking a few times start growling. So she she and she was very gifted, and she had, like near death experiences and stuff herself.
Amy L: Wow!
AP: Oh man. So, Krista, when you were saying that she passed, and then Louie was born. A year later, on the same day.
Do you think that some of his scared tendencies are part of her spirit coming back and being like Oh, shit! I was here before I like. I know there's stuff here that, but I know they're gonna take care of me. But I also know, like I gotta take care of them, and I'm a little scared to do it.
Christa: I'm gonna say no. And here's why Sophie was tough as nails. She was 1,000, my protector. She was not scared of anything, and actually she has definitely entered my hound dog like her. A lot of her persona has taken over my hound dog, and it didn't take long after her passing for a lot of that to come out, and my hound dog we rescued, and they did not really like each other when we first got her, and I mean it was literally like a out of nowhere personality traits that were directly from Sophie, and there were even times after her passing.
Oh, am I might get emotional. Marley would literally not lay in the spot on my bed where Sophie would lay just randomly in some nights.
Michelle: Hmm.
Christa: It would be the same night that, like I would really feel her presence there.
But now I mean, that's one of the things like. I can feel her all the time, and she definitely become one of my guides like she was she. If any of you are familiar with familiars, she was undoubtedly one of my familiars, and she definitely comes out in Marley, my hound dog! But I don’t say that.
AP: If you listen to any of our other episodes, you'll hear me talk about all of my dogs, but I I fully
believe all of that. So the one I picked up to show you cause he was whining. I could hear him over there like this weekend he wouldn't like. He wouldn't let me out of his sight all weekend, and when I was gone, even when I got home Saturday and everybody else was home.
he was scream/whining at the window because he could see me. I was like this, isn't you? Haven't done that before, like you've done it when I've when nobody else is home. But you haven't done it when everybody else is home.
Christa: That's how Sophie was very like she had to be by my side. She would wind if she was not near me. If I was getting upset by something she would rush over to me and say possible to me. She had to be touching me, and if I was crying, forget about it. She needed to be laying on top of me or be near me. She was, like, you know, like literally lick the tears off my face. Kind of connection like she was.
Oh, there are no words for how remarkable that dog was, but she was so intuitive, and the things that she would pick up on like it was not normal, like just, oh, a dog, you know, heard the the house settling, or whatever like she knew stuff when I knew stuff.
Michelle: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
AP: I love dogs. So, yeah.
Christa: They're just remarkable, aren't they?
Amy L: I have a Velcro dog, too. She's right here right.
AP: Gracie?
Amy L: Gracie.
Michelle: I like Velcro dog.
Christa: They’re the best.
Megan: I have cats. I like cats.
Christa: I've recently fall in love with a cat who is just re randomly showed up about 6 months ago, and now he's glued to my hip as well.
Michelle: On the Hunter's moon, which is his name.
Christa: His name is Hunter.
Megan: See cats are good, too.
Michelle: They are amazing and Louie is best friends with Hunter.
Megan: Oh, I love that.
Michelle: It's okay.
Megan: Best friends, forever. Yeah.
Michelle: It's adorable. But we had our neighbor's niece was going into like pet medium training or practicing. And so our neighbor was like, Hey, do you mind if she practices on your animals? And we're like no.
So she she said, well, Max loves. When Dad shares his banana with him in the morning. She was in India. There's no way for her to know that.
AP: Hmm.
Michelle: And Max says he's a good boy.
AP: Does she want to talk to my animals, and practice, too? Because.
Michelle: Yeah, I can send you her name. She's she's absolutely amazing. She talked to us about Marley, but I don't remember too much about what she said about.
Christa: I believe it had to do with her being adopted, and she was really glad to be adopted.
It was right around the time where she was starting to really settle in, and she reflected on that.
Michelle: Yeah. And with Sophie it was.
Christa: I don't remember Sophie’s part of it.
Michelle: Yeah, she she had some things to say about Sophie, but I don't remember all of it. I have it written down somewhere.
Megan: I don't think I wanna know what John's cat Optimus has to say, cause it's all gonna be just terrible.
AP: “How do I take her out in her sleep?”
Megan: Yeah, that's honestly like. “Wanting for her to die.”
Christa: I’m gonna say plotting your demise.
Michelle: Oh!
Megan: Such a dick cat! I know. god he's such a Dick.
AP: See, I know, Briggs has been with me in previous lives. So we've we've got that
As your Sophie probably is the same for you, Christa Yup, they're they're a once in a lifetime. Kind of dog, even though you're gonna have other dogs that give you that kind of stuff. Yeah.
Christa: Yup, I know exactly what you mean.
Michelle: Yeah, definitely.
AP: And Megan's hoping Optimus Prime is a once in a lifetime kind of cat.
Megan: When when he dies, my husband is gonna need like hardcore therapy, like he will not be okay after that cat dies.
Christa: Sounds like a problem.
Megan: If there's a fire. And John, my husband, had to save our son or Optimus, I, honest to God, think it'd be a struggle for him.
I think he'd be like “God, we can have another son, but I just…”
Michelle: Now Megan, you just have to have a plan. You grab your son.
Christa: I was gonna say that.
Megan: Of course I will, but if I'm like away from the house or something John will be like, I don't know what to do.
Christa: He'll tell the son. “Help me find the cat I’ll bring you out too.”
Megan: Yes, he'll be like your reward is life for finding my cat. Yeah. You think I exaggerate.
Christa: Honestly, I believe you.
Megan: Yeah.
Christa: I, get it. Nothing like an attachment to an animal.
Megan: It's fine. I'm not bitter. It's fine.
Michelle: Oh, yeah.
Megan: Is there anything else that you want us to know about your anything really.
Amy L: Behind the scenes stuff you want to share about meeting Amy or Steve?
Megan: Favorite color. What do you like to eat.
Amy L: Yeah.
Megan: I like enchiladas.
Michelle: I'm very, very sad to see that the show has come to an end. I'm very sad that Amy wasn't a part of it at the end. But I totally understand.
AP: Yeah.
Michelle: But she needed a break, and she needed some time away. Cause the things that she sees absorbs for those shows. And I can only imagine. I can only imagine.
The crew. I cannot speak highly enough of how freaking, amazing and fun and respectful.
Christa: Yeah.
Michelle: I mean, yeah, sometimes I'll still find a piece of like black tape somewhere. And I just like laugh it off because I think it's so funny because I'm like, oh...
Christa: I've left some of it up because I'm like, Yeah, you know what? I don't want to see that logo. You're right or I don't. I don't want to see that like, keep that tape up.
Michelle: They introduced us to those lighty light fixture thingies. They left one and we were like, Okay, yeah, we'll we'll keep it. You plug you plug your lamp into it, and it turns your lamp into one of those like you know.
Megan: Like a dimmer?
Michelle: Yes, a dimmer switch. Thank you. My God! My brain!
Megan: Words are hard, sometimes.
Michelle: Yes, words are hard, and what was the other thing? There was something else that they left, and we had to contact them like the next day, because we knew that one.
Christa: Oh, it was like a a piece of the audio that must have fallen behind something.
They happened to be in town, so was able to get.
Megan: Was it Amy?
Michelle: No, it was. It was one of the young guys.
Christa: You just find Amy sitting in her living room going.
Michelle: Can you imagine? Could you? Could you imagine? Oh, Amy's here, and we did. I didn't know she was Greek, and she.
She was here, and so that was nice.
Megan: Oh, that's cool!
Amy L: Oh with the Greek cookies!
Christa: I was blacked out for some of this because you're saying things, and I have no recollection of it.
AP: Me too. Christa. Me too.
Megan: Yeah, I don't remember any of it, either.
Michelle: We met her. Dad. Do you remember?
Christa: Who’s dad?!
Michelle: Amy's dad was here for the reveal.
Christa: This is. This is what I was on. This is the effect that the things were having on me. I don't remember any of this.
Megan: Christa’s like was I there?
Amy L: Wow, “Do you remember seeing me there?”
Michelle: Oh, wait! The exterminators, the very nice guys.
Christa: Oh my god that was so funny.
Michelle: The very nice guys in the strange truck that showed up. Hysterical.
Megan: Kevin and Isaac were their names.
Amy L: Oh, yeah.
AP: And they were like yeah, so I don't. I don't think that the animals you think are making those noises in the house.
Megan: Right.
AP: Is this what I talked about the mouse, too?
Amy L: I was like monkeys are in here at night?
Megan: Yes, Steve.
Michelle: Knock once if you're good. Mice are not going to do that.
AP: Blink if you need help.
Christa: When we saw that part of it…Don’t insult my father, that way he keeps a tight ship in our house.
Megan: Yes.
Christa: No rodents in our roof relax.
Megan: Steve’s like, “It's not the rats?” I'm like, just like it's not the rats, Steve. It's not the dogs. It's never an animal.
Amy L: It’s not the dogs, it’s never the dogs, Steve.
AP: Swamp rats out of Princess Bride.
Megan: Rodents of unusual size.
Michelle: I was just gonna say, there were no alligators here either, just saying.
AP: There’s not one hiding in your pool?
Michelle: No, and they did not take.
Megan: They go to the Tiki Bar.
Michelle: The whatever the airboat. There was not an airboat.
Amy L: Oh, yeah.
Michelle: Our property. That is way out in the Everglades.
Megan: Wanted to ride it.
Michelle: Well, we you. What's really cool is, when we actually had Steve and his wife come down, Steve, Mechanics Steve Smith and his wife. We had them come visit, and we actually took them on an airboat ride, and it was the first time my husband and I had been on an airboat ride, and we're natives. We had never been on a stupid, but we were like, if they did it. Why shouldn't we? We should play.
Megan: Was it fun?
Michelle: Yes, it was so, except we did not see one alligator.
Megan: I was just gonna ask Michelle. It's like you knew.
Michelle: But here's.
AP: too warm.
Michelle: What was so funny is, my husband was like telling the rest of the. It was a big boat, and it wasn't like the one that Steve DiSchiavi was on. It was a big boat, and there's other people on it, and my husband's telling them like what the bird is, and what the with the trees are. And like all this, and then we get back to the dock. And I'm like there's an alligator.
Megan: Husband sounds like he has golden retriever energy, too.
Michelle: Not… well…
AP: No, he just. He was just excited to say like, Oh, I know what all this stuff is, because I do the same thing. I was at the State Fair and I. People were looking at fish, and they're like, that's a such and such I'm like, no, that's a that's a small mouth bass. That's a large mouth bass. That's a walleye that's a perch.
Michelle: Yes, exactly.
Christa: Yeah, yeah, he's the type where, like, you walk through like natural gardens, or like zoos and stuff. And he tells you what the native plants are. So you don't even need to look at the little like plaque.
AP: Dad and I are friends.
Christa: Just yeah. yeah. He's just he's. But that's I mean, that's even. That's part of his gift, too, because even if he doesn't know something, it'll just pop in his head. Oh, that's what that is.
Amy L: Oh, wow!
Michelle: And it's his business, you know. He's a landscape contractor, I mean, you know.
Amy L: Okay, got it.
Michelle: You gotta know some things.
Megan: You gotta know some plants.
Michelle: Oh, well, we got back to the dock, and I was like, the alligator’s right here, people and I didn't tell anybody until after I got off the boat took a picture, and then I was like, “Hey, everybody! There's a Gator right here.”
Megan: My God! I would be scared shitless. If I saw an alligator I'd be like I'm going.
Michelle: They're amazing.
Megan: On, like.
Michelle: Yeah, they're amazing.
Megan: View them from afar, cause they're big. Listen. I can't watch the dead files at night. Okay, I have. So.
Christa: Oh, I can't either. Has to be daylight.
Megan: Thank you Christa, yeah.
Christa: Anything that’s got a spooky vibe I can't do at night.
Amy L: I love it.
Megan: Noon on a Tuesday and then even then sometimes I have to pause it, and I text Amy about it.
Michelle: What was the movie that we watched? And then I was like, Oh, yeah, now I'm done. It wasn't The Exorcist. We finally watched the…
Megan: No.
Amy L: That’s scary
Michelle: That's not.
Christa: That’s horrific
Megan: I will never want that.
AP: “The Pope’s Exorcist”?
Michelle: Was it the Annabelle, the one with the Annabelle.
Amy L: Oh, “The Conjuring”?
AP: The doll
Michelle: Damn doll.
AP: I hate dolls.
Michelle: Frickin’ dolls.
Christa: I didn't watch it. I won't I? No. I liked Halloween, you know it stays pretty much off the radar. It's mostly jump scares. I like that.
Amy L: Yeah.
Christa: I just thought of something interesting. You guys.
Megan: Tell us.
Christa: Right one of the other things with me that it wasn't relevant to the story, so I don't know. Amy picked it up and didn't mention whatever. But
One of the other things that actually is taken care of before the team even had to get here was there was a child hanging onto me that I had picked up while volunteering at the hospital or just going back, and I used to do a lot of work there, and it was literally a child. Who was I? The way that it was described was really sort of upsetting? But it was basically like the child... It wasn't like it was disfigured and disformed like it was like partially in partially out, but it was hanging onto me, and I literally cause I I remember talking.
Michelle: Like a backpack.
Christa: Yeah, it was literally hanging on, because I I always felt like there was this pressure on my shoulders weighing me down and.
Megan: Oh my gosh.
Christa: And yeah, there was. There was a little kid that was hanging on to me that I had accidentally picked up, and it wasn't malicious. He just he went, at some point when I was walking through the hospital. It he/she found me as the safe person, and latched on to me, and then just never let. Oh, I have no idea how long it was attached to me, either.
AP: That's when you just gotta gotta be like Jack. “I'll never let go. Whoops.”
Christa: Well, and so I remember. Oh, now it's coming back to me. We had to do some sort of thing where we helped it move on because it needed help transitioning.
AP: I'm sure I'm sure he was just the child was just getting confused and didn’t know what was going on.
Amy L: So he or she just wanted to move on.
Christa: Exactly, and just felt safe around.
AP: Well, you had all sorts of pets to play with.
Megan: Yeah, you have bird cats, goats.
Christa: True. Oh, yeah, I'm sure he he! I don't know. I keep saying “he”
AP: Must have been a he.
Michelle: I feel like it was a he, too. I I don't know why, but I seem to feel like it was a he.
Christa: Yeah, so.
Michelle: But it was, it was interesting the whole detachments and all that stuff. It was Intense.
Megan: That's really neat.
Christa: The one thing that I would. Also, the last thing that I'd like to share with people is just if you are experiencing things, and you don't know where to start, or you talk to people, and you don't know if they're legit, genuinely reach out to Spirit Mechanix, because they'll even if even if it's just a conversation where they can tell you.
Yeah, that person's full of shit or well, no, it sounds like they know what they're talking about. Yeah, go, you know they they're probably someone that would be good to trust, or they'll say, you know, we can come down and take a look, but they really are I I mean, my mom's already said it, but cannot stress enough how wonderful they are.
Follow their pages if you want to support them and keep up with like they truly are so knowledgeable, and even just passively looking at their content. You'll learn stuff, and just it's …can't speak highly enough about them.
AP: Awesome
Megan: Interviewing them next week, too. So if everybody listens, you can listen to them.
Michelle: Yeah, and you can't just become a mechanic. You have to work your butt off, and then you have to become an honorary and a trainee, and I haven't even gotten to that.
Christa: That is something to mention, too, is they, you know they they are happy to have people in different states. So you enjoy helping people and something that you want to persue. They'll work with you and help help you learn your abilities that you're able to be there. You know Florida, Representative Tennessee, you know, whatever state it is. Yeah.
Amy L: Oh, I love that! That's great!
Michelle: Yeah, yeah, they they really are.
Christa: Readings and stuff on like Thursday, that you can like, put your name in and stuff
AP: Awesome
Christa: yeah, they’re awesome.
[Minnesota Goodbye #1]
Amy L: Alright. Well, yeah, I've we've kept you quite a while here. This has been delightful.
Megan: Yeah It's been so fun.
Michelle: So fun
Christa: so much fun.
Megan: Thank you so much.
Michelle: You're welcome. Thank you for having us.
[Minnesota Goodbye #2]
Megan: We appreciate you taking the time to meet with us. We've really really enjoyed talking to you and it's just been delightful. It's been wonderful.
Christa: Thanks for having us, and thanks for.
Michelle: Doing your research
Christa: That too
Michelle: and it. And I will say it was super super fun to actually watch the episode through your guys’ eyes cause my mother still hasn't even watched the episode.
To like, watch, you guys react. And then it was some of the same react. So it was, it was fun. It was, thank you.
AP: Hey, We didn't make a complete fool of ourselves, you guys.
Megan: This time.
Amy L: Not this time.
Megan: I'm sorry I called you 12 years old.
Christa: It’s ok all good. Well, no, thank you, water under the bridge, you you don't.
AP: You take it, because then you get to be the only person carded when you're almost 40, when you're sitting down with your younger siblings.
[Minnesota Goodbye #3]
Michelle: All right.
Megan: Thank you.
Amy L: So much again.
Megan: Much bye.
Michelle: Absolutely have fun with it!
Christa: Absolutely
Megan: Wonderful night. Stay away from the Gators.
Christa: We’ll do our best.
Megan: Bye, bye.
Christa: Bye.
Amy L: Bye
AP: Bye
[ad]
Megan: Next week. We will be talking to Drumroll, please. That was a terrible drum roll… Spirit Mechanix!
Amy L: If you didn't listen to us, say that 17 times in the actual episode.
AP: Who are we interviewing next week?
Amy L: I don’t remember.
Megan: Spirit Mechanix. I think I think that's the.
AP: That how it's pronounced. Okay.
Megan: Spirit different than spirit Halloween. Spirit Mechanix.
Amy L: Definitely.
Megan: This is the paranormal group that Amy Allan works with, and we cannot wait to hear more about what they do, their stories pretty much anything they want to tell us. Especially those who have worked with Dead Files, clients.
Including Christa and Michelle, who we just spoke to so we were excited to speak to them before speaking with Christa and Michelle, but even more so. Now I think we're we just can't wait.
So we hope you enjoyed our conversation with Christa and Michelle and we will see you all next week.
Amy L: Whoop!
Megan: Thank you.
AP: Bye.
Amy L: Bye
Megan: Bye…I am pooped.
Emotional Liberation Coach
Michelle Barone is an intuitive emotional liberation coach whose business is helping clients level the playing field between themselves and the emotions that are controlling their lives.
After facing many traumas in her own life - a deeply dysfunctional childhood, her daughter’s cancer journey, and a tumultuous corporate career - Michelle dedicated her career to helping others achieve change, growth, and calmer shores by taking trial and error out of the equation. She applies all of the experiences and techniques she has tested and benefited from, as well as the gifts she has developed over the years, to help her clients create the life they deserve.
Michelle works with clients through one-on-one coaching, workshops, and speaking engagements.
To learn more about Michelle, Moksha Grace Coaching, and what coaching can do for you, visit MokshaGrace.com.
Fractional COO
Christa is a Fractional COO, childhood cancer survivor, and lifelong spiritual student. As a Fractional COO, she provides operations insight, guidance, and expertise to entrepreneurs, coaches, and small businesses. In her personal life, she is the caretaker for many animals - dogs, goats, chickens, and more - and loves cooking/baking. She is exceptionally passionate about health, wellness, and spiritual growth. She is always seeking to live more authentically and be the best human she can be.
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