Ghosts Gone Wild: New Orleans

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[00:00:00] Amy: 4, 3, 2, Hello! And welcome.

Welcome. for joining us again. We are going to be recapping another episode of the Dead Files. This one is the last one in our spring break series, which is why we are in our. Sunglasses and I had to grab a a loud shirt from Greg's closet because I don't apparently I threw all mine away or put them away or something.

So and this one takes place in the Big Easy and we have thoughts which we will get to, but Megan chose this one and so I'll let her tell you, let her to select it.

[00:00:38] Megan: I selected it. Because I've been to New Orleans and for everybody listening in New Orleans, I'm so sorry. I'm not going to say it right.

I don't have, I can't make my mouth move the way that it's supposed to move. And so it's no disrespect to the city. It's me. I cannot do it. But I went there. I had so much fun. I went to a saints game sports football, and it was really a lot of fun. And so I just thought, you know, it's a really good spring brace spring break place.

So it fit it. Quite well into our theme. AP, what are we warning the people about today?

[00:01:13] AP: Absolutely. Got a few different things here today, but how this also does really fit into spring break. It is like Mardi Gras capital, and that usually is kind of towards the kickoff of spring break season, even though it's Fat Tuesday before Ash Wednesday, Lent, whatever you all want to celebrate.

But now the deep stuff. So the content warning overall for the show and things we'll probably talk about is there is suicide, domestic violence. Hurricane Katrina. A lot of stuff is brought up with that. And then, depending on where we get in the episode mental health, insanity again, some choice phrases from our Oh, God, Steve.

local homicide detective

[00:01:59] Megan: I know. A couple of times, I was like, really, Steven? Mm hmm.

[00:02:04] AP: Steven? And this wasn't that long ago. This was No. This would have been films in probably 2018 or early 2019.

[00:02:11] Megan: It was 2018 because something Alec or Eddie said about three years.

And they bought it in 2015. Yes. So it was, it was filmed in 2018. So, I mean, I'm only gonna do it. We'll get there. We'll get there. Housekeeping, housekeeping, housekeeping.

[00:02:28] Amy: All right, let's see if I can read this. Okay, so in the coming weeks, forgive me if you're watching me and I'm sitting here funny, I can't read with my sunglasses on.

In the coming weeks

[00:02:40] AP: You look like the most beautiful butterfly.

[00:02:44] Amy: My glasses are big enough to be wings. We are going to be sitting down with Michelle and Christa from last week's episode. Remember I said I was telling everybody I was trying to be cagey and I was like, so we are going to be talking to some clients.

And I didn't want to say The people we're talking about right now because I wasn't 100 percent sure that it was going to happen and we have scheduled it and they have listened to that episode. I gave them private links to listen to that episode, watch the video actually. And Michelle wrote me back and she's like, Oh my God, we were laughing so hard.

We were having such a good time. So we're going to have a blast and blah, blah, blah. So it'll be fun.

And then Oh, I guess that's it. Anybody else have anything they want to talk about? I don't think so. Well, then we are ready to jump in. Megan, would you like to do the overview?

[00:03:35] Megan: Yeah. And I wrote it not five minutes before we started.

Amy: That's not true.

Megan: It isn't.

[00:03:46] Amy: I know.

Megan: I wrote it a long time ago. I like 3:00 PM I

[00:03:47] AP: know she said she meant that she didn't write it as we were getting on like, like the last time the,

[00:03:52] Amy: I thought you said you did write it. Oh, no. Three minutes ago and I'm, no, you didn't.

[00:03:59] Megan: I wrote it literally while I was in another meeting today, so.

[00:04:02] Amy: Well, it's very well written. I liked it. It was very good

[00:04:05] Megan:. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. So, located in the heart of New Orleans, Vessel has a unique history. Built in 1914, the building ran as a Lutheran church for 50 years. In 1977, the prestigious family, the. Gallatories, purchased it and turned it into a restaurant.

The restaurant was very successful for a number of years. However, eventually the popularity waned and when Hurricane Katrina hit in 2005, the restaurant was unable to recover and closed. Alec and his business partner, Eddie, bought Vessel in 2000. Ooh, Alec and his business partner. I said it really weird.

Alec and his business partner, Eddie, bought Vessel in 2015, sight unseen. Alec stated to Steve he was drawn to the building and couldn't explain why. Since moving in, they have had paranormal experiences consistently and also have been getting more and more violent. From shadow figures in cold spots to, to employees getting pushed and dishes flying at the chef.

Alec and Eddie are now concerned for the safety of themselves, their employees, and the customer. While researching, Stephen covers a wealthy woman in history who struggles to protect her family fortune from her greedy father in law and a son who murdered his father in the 1940s. With all this history and activity, Amy struggles through the walk.

Emotions run high from spirits and residual energies left behind. Can Alec and Eddie protect their employees and their customers, or will history claim the vessel? Stay tuned to see if the activity continues. I was

going

[00:05:45] AP: to say your kitty is trying to join, isn't he?

[00:05:48] Amy: Marshie!

[00:05:51] Megan: The amount of living creatures that need my attention constantly is just too much.

Amy: Add four dogs to that. I can't. All right.

Megan:  So we're season 11, episode 7, Deadly Vessel, original air date, August 8th, 2019.

[00:06:09] AP: So I have the 22nd from, I have August 22nd and that was from the On Demand.

[00:06:15] Megan: Oh, I got it from the dead, from the dead files. I got it from the dead files. Yeah. I got it from the discovery. Steve told me. Steve said, this nutbag.

[00:06:25] AP: August 22nd. I noticed that last week too, Amy, you had said the date and I was like, that's not the date I have. And I'm, I'm just pulling them off of on demand. So sometime,

[00:06:35] Amy: sometime in August of 2019. Yeah. Yeah. I think, I think I said the second and it was the third or something like that, but. So I think I edited out what I said.

I don't know.

[00:06:47] Megan: I don't remember. I remember that it was a slightly different. So sometime in August of 2019. Yeah. So we have Alec who bought an old church and turned it into a restaurant to which my initial reaction was, Holy shit, there's going to be a lot of shit going on there. Oh, yeah. See, but

[00:07:03] AP: that's not super uncommon for like a lot of places.

There's a lot of, Old churches that are turned into houses or restaurants

[00:07:11] Megan: or other businesses. I mean, I believe it, but you could never convince me to live in that. Oh, really?

[00:07:16] Amy: Oh, I would. Churches are cool. They're cool buildings. There'd be so many ghosts.

[00:07:21] Megan: Why? Because think of all the people who've died there.

Their bodies have been there. All the people who died in the church? When they have funerals, they have bodies in the church. People see people die in

[00:07:33] Amy: the church.

[00:07:33] Megan: You don't know their lives?

[00:07:36] Amy: Well, I hope they were not alive when they started the funeral. It's not

[00:07:40] AP: like what they did in the Patriot when they locked everybody in the church and lit it on fire.

[00:07:44] Megan: Oh  boy. Speaking of good segue. So, Zoey, our patron, did my tarot reading. Yes! Oh my God. You guys, you've done it. You need to get a tarot reading to my heart. Just it's but then before that she, and we can cut this, but I just wanted to, no, it's, I don't care. So she told me she messaged me the day after we recorded last week and was like, I have a message for you, like the spirits are trying to get to you.

So she had this whole message for me,

all right, so we're one sentence in starting in strong.

So Amy arrives and says there's so much chaos, lots of people, people in the ground and people being killed. So immediately she's. There's just a lot happening for Amy.

[00:08:29] AP: Yeah, I'm pretty sure I put Oh, goody. Great. We got a grab bag.

[00:08:36] Amy: Yeah.

[00:08:36] Megan: Yeah. I will say I did feel bad for Amy during this walk because she really

[00:08:41] Amy: struggled a lot.

She did. Yeah,

[00:08:43] Megan: she really did. So then we cut to Steve and Alec. Alec says the paranormal activity is out of control, concerned about his business, but also concerned about the safety of employees and customers. And this is when we kind of go into the history. Built in 1914, operated as a Lutheran church until it was bought and turned into a restaurant in 1977.

And so, He, he said the place called to him and they bought it sight unseen in 2015, which is sounds very, very rash, especially given the fact that as we learned later, they were in one of the worst areas for flooding in Hurricane Katrina. So, well, I had sight unseen.

[00:09:25] AP: And that was like, so I put down in here, there's other episodes that Amy talks about when people are drawn to locations.

Then when you, like Amy, you and I shared some articles back and forth, I know of, he was in California and was like, I need to get a place in Louisiana. So they called up a real estate agent. So it wasn't like he visited the place and was like, woke up and was like, I need to have this place. It was, Oh, I

[00:09:54] Megan: need a place from

[00:09:55] AP: the article.

It was, I need to go to this area and I need a place here. Like, got it. And in the article, he says he's a psychic medium, which is never touched on in the show, which may be the first time that Amy has

[00:10:13] Megan: never Unless it was cut. It was cut or unless she didn't feel that and he is just tooting his own horn.

Yeah, that could be.

[00:10:23] AP: That's where I was going with it. I'm like, this might be the first time that somebody has abilities that, but also if he lives in California, how often is he there? Right. So when he, they, they mentioned having like four or five other restaurants. Yeah they did. I thought they were all in the area.

That's what I thought too. It wasn't until afterwards that I looked up and it was, they're all in California. Interesting. And then they just had this one random one in Louisiana.

[00:10:51] Amy: That is weird. Yeah. When he said that when Steve asked him, why would you, why would you do that by sight unseen? And he said, it just called to me and I was like, oh man, is this going to be another one of those with that poor Michael at the Tattoo.

Tattoo

[00:11:05] Megan: parlor. That, uh, yeah, that was a tough one. Yeah. It wasn't.

[00:11:11] AP: But this guy, I, I don't know, like he reminds me

[00:11:14] Amy: of an actor. Yeah. He reminded me of somebody too, but he

[00:11:17] AP: reminds me of somebody, but then, but I think the way that he just came across on some of it maybe was just making sure that we get the good story out there for, sorry, I just hit my mic.

Enjoy that later. Um, you know, it's, it makes for the good story, the drama, get people into the restaurant cause.

[00:11:36] Megan: Um, he said as soon as he walked in, he turned to his partner, Eddie, and said, I think we made a mistake. And they say partner, but then later they say business partner. So I don't know what the relationship is, but I'm just going to assume business partner because I don't want to assume anything.

That's

[00:12:00] Amy: what they said, and, and I, I kind of felt like they were partner partners. And after looking at some of the, the articles and stuff that I've seen about them, I think they might be partners, but it doesn't really matter. Yeah,

[00:12:12] Megan: no, it doesn't matter. So Steve then asks if he regrets buying it, and he says, many days I regret, yes.

So then they ask about what types of activities going on. And he said, experience the feeling of being watched, objects flying through the air, hear disembodied voices, see shadow figures, people being touched. And this one, bad luck. I

[00:12:34] AP: said,

[00:12:34] Megan: Oh, Murphy's law. Yeah. And then Alex says, if anything can go wrong, it does.

Yep. The AC broke blew, the fridge, which was two years old, blew.

[00:12:45] AP: This is where I like, my brain was like, Hey, okay. Those are. Interesting, but also you bought a building that sat under water that probably has electrical issues. Yep. Sight unseen. It was sight unseen. You know, maybe the wiring has been replaced or parts of it.

Usually, you know in some of the articles that I read that they had to there were structural foundation issues and quote, they didn't know how it was still standing. Yeah. Oh, good. That, that sounds like a really safe place to build on. But I also put you're in a very moisture rich environment, flooding or no flooding.

Mm hmm. And. Yeah, you know, there are things that could go into it because he talked about the tables getting warped. Well, I looked at the, the tables that were out on the patio didn't look like the patio tables that we see up here in Minnesota.

[00:13:37] Megan: Right.

Yeah. Yeah. And then also my in laws, they just bought a new fridge two months ago.

It's already broken. It just stopped working. So that wasn't even two, that wasn't even six months old and it stopped. So just because you're, and again, it could happen, but this is not. What I would consider paranormal. Yeah.

[00:14:00] Amy: And again, when Steve said what, why do you think this is paranormal? And I, my notes I wrote because it's literally the

[00:14:07] Megan: only explanation.

Right. Right.

[00:14:10] AP: And this is where we learned that he has four other restaurants and none of them have any issues. But we don't know that they are located in California at this point

in

[00:14:18] Megan: time. Exactly. And as AP just pointed out, they're all in California, a much, much different climate, different humidity, temperature.

There's no hurricanes. I mean, come on. And

[00:14:30] AP: what I have here is that he just can't let it go, which. Then also makes you like there's a couple of these cliche termsthat have been used in previous episodes. Mm-Hmm. , you know, was that a, like, here you should say something like this 'cause this will tell the drama, or is that something he's saying?

And I wrote, it's a labor of love or depression. Yes. Uh, or underwater on, or they're underwater on it and they won't make a profit off of selling it. It is a unique, so there's lots of other reasons that could be that he's just not letting it go. Cause it is a unique.

[00:15:06] Megan: It cool. I didn't get it. It's really pretty.

It is. It's gorgeous. I mean, you know, it's a beautiful building, but when he said a labor of love and passion, I'm like, I don't see that. And again, maybe it was cut, but what, what labor of love and passion are you talking about? To me, it sounds like a lot of projects. The fridge broke, the AC broke,

[00:15:27] Amy: especially for two guys that live in LA and probably have to go out there and deal with it.

Well, and it's, it's

[00:15:33] AP: not like this is a, it's a, a little higher end restaurant. So it's not like it's a expensive. It's not like it's a restaurant that. You know, in some cases where they're offering free meals for those on, you know, that are, uh, without homes or down on their luck sort of thing. This isn't a

[00:15:55] Megan: place that you would go to, no, it's not, but it's just the type of venue it is.

[00:16:01] AP: So, and then he says, we're not leaving. They have to leave us alone. And I just said, good luck, buddy. Yeah.

[00:16:09] Amy: And

[00:16:09] Megan: I said, we got a fighter. I just about, yeah, we got a fighter on our hands. Like, oh my God, that never happens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, anyway, so then we cut back to Amy and she's out on the patio and she says there's a lot of dead people running around you.

She said she can't breathe. She said she can't catch her breath. So the living would feel this and she said some people might feel or experience a panic attack because of this. And then we cut to Steve and Alec on the patio and Steve's asking him what experiences he has. And he said, every time he's out here, he feels like someone's watching him.

Dude, you're on a patio, like in a city.

[00:16:49] Amy: The

[00:16:49] AP: way he said it, all I could think of is every move you make. Yeah. And I'm like, I have that every day with my labs.

[00:16:58] Megan: But like you're it's not like you're in a fucking closet where nobody you're on a patio like the street is right there There's gonna be people watching you.

[00:17:07] AP: Well, and then as we're out on the patio all he does is start talking about his office Mm

[00:17:11] Megan: hmm. Yeah about how he's in the office and he'll feel something touching the back of his neck I want a light brush of a hand, right?

[00:17:19] Amy: I want to bring this up because I Amy, you probably did this too, but I looked at your notes, but I didn't see it.

But maybe you did this too. But I, they showed the office. There is a in window air conditioner, like blow would be blowing directly on his face where he's sitting at his desk. And I, I wasn't sure that was his desk, but I looked at a different video that was linked through the rabbit hole that I went down and found another group that did a paranormal investigation at this place.

And they showed a picture of both Eddie and Alex sitting at their desks or actually at Eddie sitting at his desk and Eddie's at the other desk, which means that this desk next to the AC is Alec's.

[00:18:03] AP: Desk. Yeah, I did see that. The other thing I caught and because I didn't, I don't put the captions on. I swear it kept saying.

How do you do

[00:18:12] Amy: that? How do you function? Amy and I were talking about that today. I can't

[00:18:15] AP: function without them. It's just the way my brain works. I would get so distracted reading it that I wouldn't pay attention to what else is actually

[00:18:21] Megan: going on. I cannot, like, John is the same way and he can't watch shows with, and I'm just like, how do you do this?

How do you know what they're saying? Different brains, different

[00:18:29] AP: brains. But one of the things, it's, I swear it sounded like he kept saying a wish of cold air. Yes.

[00:18:37] Amy: That's how the captions put it. Okay,

[00:18:39] AP: because it later on in the reveal, he says a whisk of cold air, but I was like a wish of cold air. I don't know that I've ever heard it like that.

I've heard it as like a wisp or a whisk or a whoosh,

[00:18:51] Megan: a whoosh. I put a whoosh.

[00:18:53] Amy: Yeah, he said wish and I, I rewound it and turned on the captions again because I have to turn the captions off in order to take the screenshots if I don't want the words in there. But sometimes I do want the words in there.

But anyway, so I had to turn them off and then wait for it to refresh and then rewind. And then I looked at it like three times and it said wish. And so, I don't know, maybe that's just a closed

[00:19:14] AP: caption. And he said it like three times, I swear, and I was just like, did he? And I did rewind a couple. Did he?

Is that what he said? Maybe it's just his accent. I'm picking up or something. I You know, whatever. And then again, he says, they don't want us here. They want us gone.

[00:19:30] Megan: Yeah. Whatever is there doesn't want them there. Well, yeah. You're in a very, very active part of the country. There's a lot of history there and ghosts and different religions, different spiritual beliefs there.

It's going to be a

[00:19:48] Amy: hotbed of activity.

[00:19:50] AP: Very quickly. Due to hurricanes of different sorts, different natural disasters. And we've seen this in other areas too. Like there was the tsunami that happened in Japan. That is on, uh, Unsolved Mysteries because a lot of

[00:20:04] Megan: that was a good episode. It is. It's, it's. It's hard, the newer Unsolved mysteries on Netflix.

Yeah. It was heavy

[00:20:11] AP: though. Like Yeah. This, it only happened in like 11 or 12. Yeah. Somewhere in there. But the I think 2012, somewhere in the, the early teens. Yeah. But the, uh, the big part was is that there's so many spirits that are stuck doing their same routine because Oh yes. It happened so quickly.

Quickly. Mm-Hmm. because a tsunami 2011. Yep. Tsunami happens from an earthquake in the ocean. Yeah. And it sent a giant wave that overtook a part of it and that's when the nuclear reactors were. Yep.

[00:20:44] Megan: Yep. I don't even know what I would do if I was sitting there and I looked up and because by the time you see it, there's no time.

There's not much you can do.

[00:20:51] Amy: Yeah. It's done by then. Or you're done by then. So

[00:20:55] AP: that's, we know that there's a hotbed of activity. Because there is so much emotion in that area and we know water and stone and other things, but we don't know, but we are assumed that those do play a factor into holding onto energies as well,

[00:21:14] Megan: amplifying them.

So then we're back to Amy and she sees a dead woman. wearing a red wig and all red. She said she does not like men. And I'm like, same girl. She said she's very physical. She said she hugged Amy. Amy said she hugged her and that sent ice cold chills through her whole body. And she said the woman is surrounded by the color red.

She said engulfed in red, like an aura, basically a type of hell. Mm hmm.

[00:21:42] Amy: I noted that when they show Amy talking about this, she's reading from her book. So this must have, this, this, when the woman hugged her and stuff that when she first saw the woman, that must have happened when she opened up the site because she, she was reading her book.

[00:21:58] AP: She talks about the, the weird shadow things with her. She says it's chaos and destruction, which then I put, Oh, is this a new band name with the hit woman in red? Because I was a snarky when I was watching this apparently. And then I also was like, Oh, but ice cold chills must've felt good in the hot and humid air.

Oh my gosh. Yeah. I know. I know. Give me a break.

[00:22:22] Megan: It's a dry heat. So now we're in the kitchen with Alec and Steve and not Dinah. Not Dinah. She's in the other kitchen. Alec has seen a misty figure outside the doors. He said he has an outline of a monk, which I was like, what does that even look like?

Okay. To

[00:22:38] AP: me, this is a Lutheran church. So I had to look up what the definition of a monk is. Cause yes, I was also how, okay, why are we thinking

[00:22:45] Amy: it's a monk.

[00:22:45] Megan: Exactly. Especially if it's the outline, like, that doesn't make any sense to me. I mean, I just picture it would be a bald

[00:22:52] Amy: guy with a robe on.

[00:22:53] Megan: Right, and like kind of a heftier dude.

Which doesn't sound like

[00:22:57] Amy: the person

[00:22:58] AP: that this wasn't a monastery, this was a Lutheran church. Mm hmm. So monks in Christian religions are more commonly present in the Catholic sect, but they're not all over, but they can be in other places. I didn't know that. But from the Oxford Dictionary, a member of a religious community of men typically living under vows of poverty, chastity, and obedience, because most in the Catholic church, the priests and everything have to be celibate, chastity, you know, the chastity and everything like that.

Whereas in other sects of Christianity, they can have chastity. They can be married. They can have families and all that sort of stuff.

[00:23:36] Megan: So there's an episode of the Golden Girls where she's one, Dorothy wants to date a priest and she doesn't know he's a priest. Oh my God, he's a

[00:23:46] Amy: priest.

[00:23:47] AP: But yeah, I had, I, I really questioned the only reason I, the only reason I feel like he's just saying it's a monk is because it's a church.

It's an old judge. That was the feeling I got because, yeah, because,

[00:24:00] Megan: but I mean, even

[00:24:01] AP: then, you're seeing a person in a robe,

[00:24:05] Megan: wouldn't you? If that's the case, then I would have gone to like a father or like a pastor. Yeah. Yeah. Because pastors wear robes.

[00:24:14] Amy: And we have, anyway, it turns out not to be a monk or a pastor or

[00:24:18] Megan: anything.

[00:24:20] Amy: So it turns out to be a fancy pants, cousin, husband. But we'll get gross.

[00:24:25] Megan: And then Alec came in one morning and all the burners on the stove were on. Also, the stove looked fucking gross. There were dirty pots covered, like stacked on it. But

[00:24:38] Amy: you like to eat out in restaurants, never go into a restaurant

[00:24:41] AP: kitchen.

Did the, did the production crew set it up that way? Remember when you were talking

[00:24:45] Amy: to Lauren about

[00:24:46] Megan: it? But like, why would you want it to, it looked so unappealing. I guarantee you that it is not that way at the end of the night, because any chef worth his. Or her or their, or none salt would clean it, but it was gross.

You guys

[00:25:00] AP: leave it for the next day. People get pissed. But I just think back to when Laura was telling us like that they opened her closets and they, they moved the clothes around and stuff. I feel like they're like, this doesn't look like an active kitchen. Let's make it look like an active kitchen, but

[00:25:16] Megan: it shouldn't look like an active kitchen if you're off hours.

Megan,

[00:25:21] AP: we know that. I know,

[00:25:22] Megan: but I'm just, it's so gross. So then Steve was like, what activity goes on in here? And he said, dishes fly off the rack. Steve, people cook in here. That's what goes on. That's what goes on, Steven. Nut bag. You do have

[00:25:38] AP: a rack of dishes in the middle of the walkway, like area where everybody's

[00:25:43] Megan: moving around and doing stuff.

And like, if it's busy on a Friday, Saturday, I'm sure people are going and dishes will fall off. So that's another. Not very, that's what I'm looking for, strong evidence.

[00:25:56] AP: Yeah, I mean, we've It's one thing if people are like, I saw it lift up and fly across. At one point, I can't remember where it was.

Somebody talks about like, things are flying in the air. And I'm like, how else do they fly?

[00:26:11] Amy: If it's flying, it's probably in the air.

[00:26:12] AP: So there was another one of these cliches that, Came in there. He goes, uh, Alex says, we're a family, they're family to us. We have to solve this problem. And I said, Hmm, we're a family is so cliche for a workplace so that you don't have to give people raise and pay

[00:26:28] Megan: them equally.

They're more than family. They're more than family. They're not just

[00:26:33] Amy: family. And as I don't know, maybe this is as good a time as any, I guess to go into a little bit of this, but, uh, They, uh, have a reputation of not treating their staff very well. Really? I found a lot of dirt on this business. They have terrible Yelp reviews

[00:26:54] Megan: and when they The one in Louisiana?

Mm hmm.

[00:26:57] Amy: Really? And when they write, when, when they get a bad review, Alec will respond and he's a real shit ball

[00:27:07] Megan: about it. Nice. Because God forbid they're doing anything wrong. It's not them. Yeah. They're

[00:27:12] AP: not there. So

[00:27:13] Amy: it's not their fault. Yeah. Well, it said there was one that said that because of the COVID outbreak, the owner was forcing their staff to come in while positive.

And then I looked at, I read a whole bunch of these reviews and I won't read you all of them. But one of one person said in the pandemic's defense, Vessel sucked before it. And then it was all these people talking about how bad the food was. The mussels tasted like swamp water. Gross. And, uh, it was fraudulent to call it food.

I'm

[00:27:45] AP: curious what restaurants, other restaurants in the area, what their price point is because I'm feeling like this is out of place. It's really expensive. For potentially for where they're at, especially when we talk about one of the hospitals later on when we, like some stuff with Amy, one of those was a, only two miles down the road.

And it was, you know, took everybody in and often had more of like the pro bono, I don't know what you want to call it for hospital, but more cases that were covered at a, at a different rate.

[00:28:19] Amy: Yeah. I, I, I looked at their, their menu. I looked at their prices. I looked at the reviews. And then if you look at the pictures of the restaurant, both on the show and pictures they have now, they have in the middle of the room, is a big, long communal table and you sit at it on a little bar stool with no back and with people you don't know and pay 29 for an appetizer.

So I can see why people complain if the food is not completely excellent.

[00:28:46] Megan: And the thing is, like, how do you have bad seafood when the ocean is right fucking there? We have

[00:28:52] AP: good seafood in Minnesota.

[00:28:55] Amy: We have good sushi places even.

[00:28:58] AP: Like those communal tables. You see those at like breweries or wineries

[00:29:03] Amy: or

[00:29:06] AP: food truck.

You're

[00:29:08] Megan: not, if I'm doing 30 an appetizer, I don't want to sit next to Billy Bob and Sally Sue over here.

[00:29:14] Amy: Like,

[00:29:15] AP: or it's at least told like on the website, like Hey, we're a, we're a family establishment, you know, but in some things that I, I saw one or two reviews where most, most places in the area are dog friendly on the patio, but, and so somebody, they've made a reservation.

They sat on the patio and then got. yelled at to leave because it would cause them to get a, uh, fine or whatever. And it totally, totally real, totally legit. But they're like, we didn't see anything that said they're not dog friendly on the website. Like that's also human, you know, your error too. If you're, if you're not seeing it on the website, then you call them.

That's your problem there. But.

[00:30:00] Amy: I would never bring my dog somewhere that I hadn't already been there where other people had brought their dogs and had been not, had a problem. They

[00:30:06] Megan: have 12 unique glasses in which to serve your drink. Yeah, that's

[00:30:10] AP: one of their Oh, that's wrong. That's another thing. That's why they call it a Vessel.

[00:30:13] Amy: And it says all over it that it is a cocktail bar, right? That it's a lounge restaurant cocktail bar. Somebody complained that they they came in and they wanted to just have drinks and so they went up to the bar and they were told to leave. They were kicked out. And so then they complained about it.

So then Alec responds to them. This is in April of 2021. We're sorry about what happened and the misunderstanding. We are a restaurant, not a bar. And with limited capacity and no bar seating, we cannot take up tables for just drinks dinner during dinner service. Why does it say bar all over your website?

I mean, that was, that was then this is now I'm sure, but even at height pandemic time, which you probably shouldn't be open anyway. And they, they probably took away their bar seating because most bars, even in Minneapolis, we did that too. You couldn't sit at the bar anymore. But then don't tell people who called ahead that they can come in with 12 people and have drinks.

Yep. Yeah. If they can't do that. And

[00:31:11] AP: the, you know, like I, I tend to look at reviews and, and try to take them with a grain of salt because people are salty when they're writing usually. You know, like one of them was. Uh, we couldn't even order food cause the kitchen was closed and I'm like, okay, what the fuck time did you get there?

Exactly.

[00:31:27] Amy: Yeah. And then, and then somebody replied and said, you got there at 8 30 and we close at nine. Yeah. I need another reservation.

[00:31:33] AP: Yep. So some of that's just entitlement. Cause I did see most of the responses I saw came from their general manager. Yeah.

[00:31:42] Amy: Yeah. I had to dig pretty far down. I had to dig pretty far back to find the ones that were responses from Alec.

And then he blamed the government for because he, he said the reason he didn't have good staff, because a lot of the people were complaining about the service, the reason he didn't have good staff is that nobody wanted to work there because they wanted to stay home and collect their unemployment check.

Oh, so

[00:32:01] Megan: he supports the orange man is what I'm, this is,

[00:32:05] Amy: this is why this is why nobody wants to work for you, shitbag. Well, it sounds like they don't

[00:32:11] AP: have a training program for like to help set people off to a good, good start. But

[00:32:17] Amy: anyways, yeah. So, it's a shit show. I don't know. I don't even, I think they still own it because this video I watched about the other investigation was only four months old and they were Really?

[00:32:30] Megan: Anyway. It does look like

[00:32:30] Amy: a really

[00:32:31] AP: cool place. It does. And apparently the ceiling is modeled after like, uh, an old ship. We're like a ship's hull. Oh,

[00:32:39] Amy: cool. Yeah. It's a beautiful building. It's

[00:32:42] AP: another play on the term vessel, but apparently the other term vessel that we have are the people.

[00:32:50] Megan: It's a double entendre.

All right. So back to Amy. I don't know where we are. That's where I am.

[00:32:55] Amy: Is that where? Yeah. Well, he says we've got to solve the problem and I was like, maybe you should treat people better. Yeah.

[00:33:01] Megan: It'll work for you. So then we're back. The lady in red is really bad. She said she's physical. She punches, pulls hair, anything to get them away.

Amy thinks if she's severely threatened, she would be dangerous. And then Amy, Amy says she has shadow things with her, but they're not human. They never were human. She said they're destructive. They're like chaos and destruction with APRD said, and she said, so that's not good. To which I went, LOL. Clearly.

And she said the woman in red is saying she wants people to get out and that's why she's doing what she's doing. So and she says, don't forget

[00:33:39] Amy: if she's in a mood, it's not going to be a good day,

[00:33:43] Megan: but like any woman, if they're in a mood is not going to be a good day and whatever you do, don't ask him.

Is it your time of the month? Oh my God.

So now we go to Eddie, and Eddie kind of reminded me of Greg, because he was very skeptic at first, but Greg still remains skeptic. So that's why I

[00:34:02] Amy: have another story, but I won't tell, I won't tell it now until at the end, but remind me to tell you about Greg being a skeptic, not a skeptic. Got it.

[00:34:12] AP: All right.

Locked away for tomorrow when we remember it,

[00:34:16] Megan: I'm writing it in our show notes. Oh, okay. Okay, in the script, in the script. Thank you. Um, so Eddie was a skeptic, but after three years of seeing constant activity, he's a believer. He hasn't had any real experience. It's just been more like secondhand.

People

[00:34:33] Amy: telling him. Yeah, he's like, my experiences are people telling me their experiences. I'm like, well, that's not

[00:34:38] Megan: an experience. Not a paranormal one anyway. That's what we call a conversation. Yeah, that's what we call it.

[00:34:44] Amy: Relaying someone else's.

[00:34:45] AP: Yeah. Yeah. He says something about these, there's things that can't be explained rationally.

I'm like, okay. I, I appreciate that, you know, thinking through that because I think there, that is a good case. You know, there are some things that can't be explained that way.

[00:35:00] Megan: Yep. He said a bartender said a beer can flew at him. No customers drinking that beer at the time. He said they have security camera and review the footage.

No indication that a customer had thrown anything. So why

[00:35:15] AP: was that beer out? They were saying it was an event, but that they had. Like, if nobody was drinking it, or

[00:35:23] Amy: maybe somebody brought it in,

[00:35:25] Megan: or nobody had it, or maybe they left it if it, if it was an event.

[00:35:28] AP: And you know, basically saying that like no customer had been drinking that beer.

So why was the beer like, that was what I couldn't figure out. I was like, why was that one out then?

[00:35:36] Megan: And if you had it, if you have security camera and footage, wouldn't you see where it came from

[00:35:41] Amy: then? Wouldn't you show it? Again, wouldn't it have been shown on the show? I have also a question about that with the patio.

Well,

[00:35:49] AP: did you, you saw the, what was in the article about how they got to be on the Dead Files?

[00:35:54] Amy: They sent the video of the patio to the Dead Files. So does that, the reason we didn't, because I saw it, it was in that other video. That other paranormal video. Is

[00:36:05] Megan: that the video of the customer, the chair being pulled out from under her?

No, it's

[00:36:09] Amy: a video of the patio where they, when they found something wet on the patio and they looked at the footage and there was a big orb that came down and that apparently that's the orb that, or that's the video that they sent to the dead fowls in order to get on the show. And I don't know why it didn't make it to the show unless somebody thought it was faked.

Well, then they

[00:36:29] AP: said out of, they were one of 26 Stories selected out of 15, 000. Yeah. Holy shit. So you're telling me some of these episodes we've seen and there was that many thousands of others.

[00:36:42] Amy: And especially as you know, they got more and more submissions every year. So that means that like, that means that Brittany won out over a whole lot more than 15 thousand, which is

[00:36:55] Megan: bullshit.

Ridiculous. But her dad wrote a book. He wrote a book you guys got in.

[00:37:01] Amy: She was possessed at

[00:37:02] Megan: 12, you guys, or 15, or whatever it was. And she doesn't, no. She didn't remember writing that stuff. No, it wasn't her handwriting. But she does blackout. Poor Brittany, just kidding, so then we also so Eddie tells us that one employee was pulled backwards going down the stairs.

And

[00:37:20] AP: Alec said the employee was pushed down the

[00:37:23] Megan: stairs. Yeah. Unless it was different employees. It could be

[00:37:26] AP: different employees. It could be, but you would think that we'd hear at least a little bit more consistent. You guys are

[00:37:30] Megan: so dubious.

[00:37:33] AP: Well, if you were pushed down the stairs or pulled up the stairs, wouldn't you be telling both of your bosses?

[00:37:40] Megan: I don't know. Maybe it got cut.

[00:37:46] Amy: Well, and they also said that it was only women that got pushed down the stairs, which isn't true. Because when they talked to the employees, one of the men said he

[00:37:52] AP: Yeah, it sounded like the men were having more of the big issues.

[00:37:59] Amy: It's all a contradiction. Yeah. What I'm trying

[00:38:01] Megan: to say.

Eddie thinks they're cursed. Then he says they had a food critic come in. And a water glass, quote, jumped off a tray onto the critic. Okay, so maybe, just hear me out as I joke and berate you two about being skeptics, but maybe something happened. I don't know if anybody, like, if any of you have ever held a tray filled with water glasses if you've been a waitress, but they're very hard to keep steady, especially if you have multiple drinks on it.

So I'm going to go out on a limb and say maybe the waiter or waitress carrying that was a Just lost balance and the water fell on the person.

[00:38:38] AP: I've had a, a tray basically fall down my back. Oh, I spilled

[00:38:42] Megan: water on a baby in a car seat.

[00:38:44] AP: It was, I was sitting, I was sitting at the table and the person was trying to do it but then somebody bumped her, her

[00:38:50] Amy: tray.

Oh.

[00:38:52] Megan: It was a ghost. The only explanation is paranormal. It was

[00:38:56] AP: absolutely paranormal. And she wasn't upset at

[00:38:59] Megan: all. I'm sure. The people whose baby I spilled water on were actually really nice about it. Did you

[00:39:06] AP: say, well this spot's really clean now?

[00:39:08] Amy: At least

[00:39:08] Megan: it wasn't mine. Or like coffee or something. Oh god, something hot?

So Eddie is hoping they can solve the problem and make it a safe place for employees.

[00:39:18] Amy: I

[00:39:18] AP: did point out though that And Food critics can kind of be asshats at times. Yes. Everybody has like panic attacks and anxiety attacks

[00:39:26] Megan: because Like they think that they're God's gift to food. And like, I'm sorry, but you're not.

You're a person with a job. Yeah.

[00:39:34] Amy: This is how I got in that rabbit hole. I was trying to find that review. And then he said it was on the radio, but I was still trying to figure out if it was like, if there was any, if I could figure out who the critic was. Yep. And if it was somebody big shot, like somebody I'd heard of, then I could see why they'd be super nervous, but but I thought if I could figure out who it was, maybe it's someone who's an asshole and gives everybody bad reviews, but I didn't get that far because I got all swept up in how they run their business during COVID.

Anyway,

[00:40:01] Megan: Back to Amy back to Amy and she sees a dead guy wandering around wearing a jester outfit, but fancier. And

[00:40:10] Amy: then she says, it's a fun house. It's a, it's a fun

[00:40:13] Megan: mad house, this place. She said, she feels like the jester runs this place. Like it's his, and he would be able to influence perceptual experiences, manipulating them to see or hear different things.

And he said, or she said, he wants them to hear things that would embarrass or humiliate them. Like if he could embarrass them or humiliate someone, he's going to do it, which like gross, he's

[00:40:37] AP: a bully and a bad

[00:40:38] Amy: parent.

[00:40:39] Megan: He is a bully and a bad. We'll get there.

[00:40:42] AP: Well, I just, I put in like a bad parent where that wants to like, you know, be like, Oh, remember that time when you were five and you did that stupid thing?

[00:40:51] Amy: Oh yeah. Yeah.

[00:40:52] Megan: Yeah. I'm going to whip out a picture. He's the type of parent that would throw their kid in the pool and say, here's your swimming lesson. Yeah. And that might be how my mom

[00:41:01] Amy: learned to swim. That's how my parents, Yeah, that was that. That was that. That

[00:41:06] AP: was a

[00:41:08] Amy: generation. They throw them

[00:41:10] Megan: in the lake.

They throw them up. Oh my God. I can't you guys. I know I can't. It's too much. Okay.

[00:41:18] AP: I also just said great. Creepy as hell because the jester is like the precursor to the clown and I hate clowns.

[00:41:25] Megan: Yeah. I mean, who likes clowns? I'm sure there are people, but there are people who are clowns. I have

[00:41:31] Amy: not

[00:41:31] AP: met them.

I like the people. I do not like the clown. Hate the game, not the player. I will burn it and curse you.

[00:41:42] Megan: So next we have Steve interviewing employees and they don't have names. So man one says he had a big scruffy beard. He'll be working and feels someone looking at him, turns around and no one's there. Um, so then we have woman one.

She came in at 8 a. m. and the first aid kit was open and everything was thrown on the ground.

[00:42:04] AP: This is kind of like the Russian nesting dolls because Steve says each one is worse than the last. That's right. So they're just kind of like, well, let's open up this one and see what it

[00:42:12] Megan: is. Man 2, he was the last person in the building and he saw a tall figure in a long blue robe and he ran away.

Which like is the exact same response I would have, so. Yeah, he's like, I just bolted. Yeah, he, I'd be like, yeah, yeah, same. I'm not, I quit. Nope, I can't. Woman two, she was going upstairs, reaching for the handrail and every time she felt like someone was pushing her hand away. Get away. And she trips on the first step.

Okay. I do that literally daily. So clearly I'm haunted.

[00:42:48] AP: I mean, how many times do you fall up the stairs and you look around to make

[00:42:51] Amy: sure nobody

[00:42:52] Megan: saw? I know I've done that a lot. I trip on, yeah. So I'm, I don't buy it woman

[00:42:58] AP: too. Fun fact that if, uh, stairs are off by like, even like a half an inch, it will throw you off because everybody's so used to them being a certain height.

Yeah. Yeah. that if they're off by a little bit, you might just go

[00:43:11] Amy: tumbling. Yeah, we had that in another episode, didn't we? Yeah, I think so. It

[00:43:15] Megan: was at a bar, I think. The only explanation is paranormal. Then we have woman three. She heard someone behind her and fell down the stairs. She was scared and embarrassed.

I'm sorry, nothing about that is paranormal to me. Well, you don't know what she heard or

[00:43:35] Amy: saw or whatever, but yeah, it doesn't, it's not

[00:43:38] Megan: solid evidence. No, it's not. So we're back to Amy, and she said, Jester dude is making himself physically present. The living would experience this. He likes physically hurting people.

And then she said something as simple as pulling a chair out from someone so they fall on their ass, which we get to later on in the story. She said that would make them feel humiliated, which is what he wants. And she said, he's getting more severe, more severe, doing something to cause physical injury, and he's stimulated by people getting hurt.

He gets off by them getting hurt. Amy says he's insane.

[00:44:16] AP: And then has a great face as it cuts to

[00:44:19] Amy: break. Yeah. Is that the one you took it? Yeah. It's great. Screenshot it. I'll stick that in the video.

[00:44:30] Megan: Um, so now we go to celebrity chef, Chris Montero, which I did not know of

[00:44:35] Amy: him. I didn't either. And Steve's like, if you're interested in celebrity chefs, you definitely know this guy. And I'm like, Oh, great. I don't know. I don't know who that is. It

[00:44:43] AP: may be a little bit, but I, I'm like, I watch a lot of cooking shows and I haven't seen him on a competition or as a judge

[00:44:50] Megan: or if I actually is.

I mean, he's, he, he's not, I mean, he's been around for a minute

[00:44:58] AP: and it's nothing against him. It was just Steve, the way that Steve was like, if you haven't heard it, it

[00:45:02] Amy: sounded like we were going to be seeing Wolf like Bobby

[00:45:04] Megan: Flay or something.

[00:45:06] AP: He is, he is currently the head chef at Napoleon House, which is where they had their meeting at.

Oh, okay. Because you could see when they walk, when Steve walks in, the rug out front says Napoleon House. I wondered what that was. So I did look him up and that is the restaurant that Chris Monteiro is the head chef at. Is he still there? No. I believe so because I, I tried looking him up. Oh, okay. So he did, he started off at Christian's.

Yeah. Which Megan

[00:45:33] Amy: will get to.

[00:45:35] Megan: There, I'm looking at their menu right now. Napoleon, way more affordable. Oh, really? Okay. They have po'boys, alligator sausage for 13. 50. I tried alligator. It was so gross. It was very, very chewy. It's not done well. Seafood gumbo, a bowl is 12. Oh, that's pretty good.

Desserts, a cannoli, seven bucks. That's pretty standard. I mean, they're a lot more friendly, affordable, not friendly. You're right. Affordable. Anyways, I digress. So it's just rare for this podcast. I'm sorry. So Chris got his start at the restaurant before Vessel, so Christian's, and that was the one that we touched on at the beginning.

So in the early 1970s Oh, I'm sorry, ap,

[00:46:27] AP: I just was like, Ooh. A creative name in an old church.

[00:46:30] Amy: Yeah. Yeah. Christian's. Christian's. I have to look it up to see if it was Christian apostrophe s or Christian's or Christian, like, like it belongs to a guy named Christian. Mm-Hmm. . Yeah. Or if it was a place for Christians.

But it is apostrophe S Yes.

[00:46:44] Megan: Apostrophe. That's the, the, the closed captions said ap, if you would. You wouldn't know.

[00:46:51] AP: I looked it up, so if you do research,

[00:46:54] Megan: you'll find it. I'm just teasing.

[00:46:56] Amy: I looked it up too, even though it was in the closed captions because I wasn't, I didn't trust it. Yeah, the

[00:47:00] Megan: closed captions can frequently get things wrong.

Wish of air. It's still,

[00:47:03] AP: it's definitely a play, like, you knew what Like,

[00:47:07] Megan: did you spend 30 seconds on that name? Yeah.

[00:47:10] AP: Even if your name is Christian and you're like, Ooh, I just bought a church and I want to make a restaurant out of it. I'm naming it after

[00:47:17] Amy: myself. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:47:17] Megan: So in the early 70s, a prominent restaurant family known as the Galatour family purchased it and they converted it into a restaurant.

And Chris actually said he worked there in the early 80s and my notes say for about a year, Christ worked there, which is fitting. If it's converted from a church into Christian's, it is natural that Christ would work there. Yes. I meant Chris, but I added a T. She added a T. Oh, I see. And he would bring out water and turn it into wine and people would go, Jesus Christ, I just wanted

[00:47:51] Amy: water.

[00:47:53] AP: Could you make this white?

[00:47:55] Megan: Yeah, I don't know. Reds with the tannins. They give me a headache. So the restaurant had begun to wane in popularity and then Katrina hit in 2005. And that was the end of the restaurant. And I did not realize it had been almost 20 years since Katrina hits. Yeah.

[00:48:11] Amy: That was,

[00:48:12] Megan: oh

[00:48:12] AP: my god.

And I love, Steve goes, what was Katrina like? Really? It was really fun,

[00:48:18] Megan: Steve. Did you see the news? It was a great time. They said no drinkable water, no gas in the city, no electricity. Everything was flooded. Then we go to Amy outside and she's hearing people yelling and crying like in a panic. She feels pain, loss, suffering, and so many people are feeling devastated.

And this is where you really see her, like, patting her hands, just really struggling, which I'm sure there's a ton of emotion.

[00:48:46] Amy: Yeah, the way she said that, she was like, so,

[00:48:51] Megan: like, She said, people are devastated.

[00:48:56] Amy: Yeah, and I have it in the transcript and the transcript has the timestamp. Every one of those words is two seconds apart.

So You know what I mean? So she said it like that so

[00:49:08] Megan: slowly because she was like overwhelmed

[00:49:10] Amy: feeling it. You could tell she was feeling

[00:49:12] Megan: it. So then we talk more about Katrina and the restaurant was in one of the worst affected flood zones. Chris said there was approximately 8 feet of water in the streets and 4 feet of water inside the restaurant.

He said after the storm, Christian's was used as a gathering place.

And then they talk about the incident at the hospital, which was a short walking distance from the restaurant because there was no electricity, standing water, no water, like no drinkable water. 19 patients in intensive care died.

[00:49:48] AP: However, I, I will interject here and say, if you want to hear more about this story, I believe it was the charity hospital, uh, when I looked up hospitals that were near that area, it was two miles away.

Uh, so a seven minute walk, well, they said seven minute walk, but I think it's a little bit more than a seven minute walk. It'd be a really fast walk. Yeah. But the charity hospital was covered by. Karen in My Favorite Murder, episode 390. It is a very well done episode. It is. It's very heavy, but it talks about how the doctors and nurses saved as many patients as they could, any way they could.

And literally, somebody had a canoe. Somebody had brought a canoe because they were going to go do something after work, and they had a freaking canoe. that they were able to help get babies and families out of the hospital. And so I, I don't really want to dive into all of the history of that. So somebody else has already done it and it's done well.

So I highly encourage you to go find that episode, episode

[00:50:47] Amy: 390. Yep. I'll link in the show notes. That was a good one.

[00:50:50] Megan: and then Chris said, as of this recording, it is still abandoned and there's still standing water in that hospital.

You imagine

[00:50:57] Amy: the mold and shit that's going on in there.

[00:51:00] AP: Well, just, I mean, the cost to even knock it down to, because it's, it, obviously it's Condemned. Right. But then it, like, part that makes me anxious about some of these is you get all these people that want to go in and investigate all the abandoned places and if that's got standing water in the basement still, that is so structurally unsound, but you know people are going to go and do it because we had people go and do it in grain bins and elevator, grain elevators around here.

That's a great idea. And then they wonder why they get hurt or they get Or die. Or they, their families want to go after the building owners and it's like, no, it was all posting. Yeah. There's a lot of information that says don't go in here and you enter at your own risk if

[00:51:42] Amy: you do.

[00:51:42] AP: Yeah. But yeah, I, that one was definitely, there's a lot of, a lot of heavy history there.

That was tough. But you explained my Amy seeing people on gurneys. They were using every mean and mode possible to get people out to a hospital that was on higher ground. Yeah.

[00:52:01] Megan: Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't, wasn't

[00:52:02] AP: good. Like they were, they were taking turns bagging people, like breathing, bagging where they were because they couldn't run any of the respirators.

So they were going for hours and hours without sleep to make sure that they got air to people when they could. And I can't imagine decisions that had to

[00:52:20] Amy: be made. Oh yeah. Oh

[00:52:22] Megan: my God. Yet. Who do you save? The kid or the mom? Right. The dad or the mom? Yes. The grandpa, the mom.

[00:52:32] Amy: That's yeah. Amy sees people screaming and yelling and horrible, painful

[00:52:38] Megan: death.

[00:52:39] Amy: And she says, what the fuck is going on? Yeah.

[00:52:43] AP: Quick thank you to all of our first responders. Oh yes. Yes. All the shit that they go through on a daily basis, not daily, not to even throw in all the other.

[00:52:51] Amy: And all

[00:52:52] Megan: the hospital workers who had to work during all this.

[00:52:56] Amy: My mom being one of them.

[00:52:58] Megan: Yeah, so she said it's like a little riot.

She said there's so much pandemonium, she can't make sense of it. She said the living people would feel sick, they'd feel nauseous. There's just so much chaos going on.

 so we go back to Steve. He called, you know, when I first get into town, I make a call to the local detectives. And he heard back from a retired detective, Ronald Ruiz, Ruiz. They don't ever say his name.

I don't think so. So September 5th, 1941, Lewis, Louis Ruter Senior received a phone call that there's trouble at the house with his son. So he leaves his place of employment, goes to the house with two coworkers, sees his son Louis Ruter Junior. So Junior was 24 years old. Junior sees senior fires at him multiple times.

Seniors struck three times. I have, I say senior struck twice, three times What? No, he struck three times. Once in the chest, twice in the abdomen. And before this, Junior had been committed to an asylum three separate times. And this is when our buddy Steve goes, Oh, this, this kid's kind of a nut bag. It's

[00:54:14] Amy: a nut bag.

Okay.

[00:54:16] Megan: Yeah. Thanks, Steve. So senior Steve. Yeah. Senior dies. And Junior also, before this, had been cut out of Senior's will. So Steve goes, oh, he's a nutbag, and also he's probably pissed about the money. I'm like, Steve, can you be a little PC? Just a little bit?

[00:54:35] Amy: Can you just a little sensitive? I'm sure he's thinking the guy's a murderer.

I don't give a fuck what I call it, which I mean, I've felt that way in some, sometimes too, this

[00:54:44] Megan: time, but he's, he has mental ill issues. I

[00:54:47] Amy: know. And by saying that about him, people with mental health issues feel that that's the

[00:54:55] Megan: way they are and that they're not seen and they shouldn't be. So even though senior died, he did not do any jail time due to his mental illness.

Because a judge determined, the son, yeah, Junior, not Steve. Junior, Junior couldn't tell the difference between right and wrong, and he was sentenced to time in a mental facility, but it is unknown how long he served. So, Steve was like, he could have been out in five, ten years. Thanks.

[00:55:28] AP: asylums in the 1940s?

[00:55:32] Megan: I'd rather not dwell on it. Oh, that's probably worse than jail. Honestly, he probably would have wished for jail. I'm

[00:55:38] Amy: pretty

[00:55:39] Megan: sure it is, yeah. So then Amy sees a young guy, he's so shy, twisted up inside. And I was like, oh my god, Amy! That's so poetic. Young guy, so shy. Right up with

[00:55:52] AP: regret.

[00:55:53] Megan: Twisted up inside.

He feels regret. He's not accepting responsibility for anything that's happened. And then she said she's getting a fight and horrible pain on the left side of her stomach. She's not sure if it's stabbing or a handgun, but it was done by another man. So I don't know if this was, if she was getting both junior and senior, if it was only senior.

Because she

[00:56:15] AP: said one man on man, you know, like one man on another. It's really interesting where she was like, yeah, he's tied up with regret, but he's not taking any responsibility.

[00:56:25] Megan: So what does he regret?

[00:56:27] Amy: Right. He's, he's probably, I think, I think he, if it's anything like what, how the story went that he probably regrets that he killed his father, but doesn't take responsibility because, I am a nutbag, and I couldn't, I couldn't control myself.

To quote Steve. To quote Steve. That is not what I would

[00:56:46] Megan: call him. I know. That is not what any of us would call him. Okay, so now we get to the library, and I'm just like, so Steve is going through a card catalog, and he's got a fucking magnifying glass, like, you. Cartography papers all over a table. I'm like, Jesus Christ.

I wanted water, not wine. Like, you know, he didn't do any of that. Fucking card catalogs, Steve. You probably don't even know how to use a card catalog.

[00:57:15] Amy: We decimal system, baby. Yeah. Do we?

[00:57:18] Megan: I remember learning that in school. Oh yeah. I, yeah, for sure. So then we go to local historian, Diana Shortes. They never said her name, so I don't know.

Shortest? Shortest? It's S H O

[00:57:29] Amy: R T E S, so who knows

[00:57:30] Megan: if it's Shortest. I loved how she said Baroness's name. I was like, oh my god, that is

[00:57:36] Amy: beautiful. And she didn't even say her whole name. No.

[00:57:40] Megan: What's her whole name? Her

[00:57:41] Amy: whole name is, I have it, hang on, scroll down. Yeah. Do you have 20 minutes? Because it's real long.

It is, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Micaela, Leonarda, and Tony. Yeah,

[00:57:56] AP: Micaela. Micaela. It's spelled Micaela, but it's Micaela. That's how she said it. Cause I wrote it down phonetically.

[00:58:04] Amy: She said Micaela. Micaela. Yeah, Micaela. Isn't that what I said?

[00:58:10] AP: I swear she said me, more of a me, like me e e.

[00:58:14] Amy: But

[00:58:14] Megan: nonetheless, nonetheless, it's beautiful.

[00:58:16] Amy: Leonarda Antonia di alaster, roja barinas barinas di

[00:58:25] Megan: alba. That's easy. I hope she didn't have to sign every like, can you imagine buying a house today with that name? Even if

[00:58:33] Amy: she just put her initials, M L A T A.

[00:58:39] Megan: Write out an anagram with that. She was born, uh, in 1795 in New Orleans. Heir, although I said here, heir to the almonestor fortune, which we don't, I don't really know what that is.

They just said the almonestor. Her father

[00:58:53] Amy: was

[00:58:54] AP: very rich. Dad was a real estate, like real estate mogul type thing. He was in an article that I read off of, that's linked actually off of the Vessel website. He was 59 when she was born. His wife was 26.

[00:59:08] Megan: That seems

[00:59:08] AP: good. Yep. And he died when she was, Two or three

[00:59:12] Amy: probably

[00:59:13] Megan: because he was fucking old.

Heart attack. Heart attack. So at 16, Micaela married her French cousin, Celestin Alba. He's got

[00:59:25] Amy: a long name too, but I'd have to scroll all the way back down. And he, he's

[00:59:28] Megan: not worth it. He's, he's not worth talking about his whole name. He's what, 20 years old. He's not worth his whole

[00:59:36] Amy: name. He's 20. Okay. So they were both quite young.

Yes.

[00:59:40] AP: Arranged marriage. Yeah.

[00:59:41] Amy: Well, at

[00:59:42] Megan: 16, she should have already had at least one kid. So like

[00:59:46] Amy: she should be in her third marriage by now. I don't think a lot of this is his fault. I think it's his fucking, no,

[00:59:51] Megan: it's his father's fault. But he did Jack shit to stand up for her. He was wimpy. Remember? That's what they said.

Didn't he call him a noodle?

[00:59:59] Amy: He called him a noodle. And then she said, he's kind of a weenie, kind of a weenie. Yeah.

[01:00:03] AP: In the, in the article, uh, there's a lot more. He, he does conspire with his dad a

[01:00:08] Amy: little bit more. Oh, does he? So he is a noodle. I kind of assumed that he was that's why I called him fancy.

I kind of assumed he was like a wimpy, uh, possibly gay. Yeah. Possibly gay. And they, they set him up with this cousin. Oh, he has, you know, he wasn't going to find a woman. I went with

[01:00:26] AP: more of it was a, the arranged marriage to keep the, you know, keep fortunes and that kind of stuff because in the family and also moms.

As far as we know, mom was single at the time because dad had passed away very early on.

[01:00:41] Megan: So speaking of her mom, she was a badass bitch and she maintained that Mikayla would maintain half of her fortune. So the dowry was half of her fortune to the family and then she would maintain control of the other half.

And her father in law Joseph was not too pleased with that. How

[01:00:59] AP: dare a woman have my money?

[01:01:03] Megan: He spent the rest of his life Trying to extort the other half of her money. It got bad. And, and the reason he did was because as we mentioned earlier, the property that they're investigating was part of the fortune that she had, and she maintained, maintained control of.

He could have collected rent on the property. So that's why he really wanted that part of it. But she was a fighter and she won all the lawsuits. So when that happened, he was like, you know what? You guys, I'm fine. Just you've won the lawsuits. I'm done. I'm just going to let you live in peace. I'm going to be fine.

Just kidding. He locked her in a Chateau for two years, solitary confinement alone, just by herself.

[01:01:46] AP: So I have I do have the article up that gives us a little bit more information. He was affectionately known, the, the husband was affectionately known as Tintin. They were married October 23rd of 1811 when she was actually 15 years old.

So, they said so shortly thereafter, the couple moved to Paris, uh, the marriage was full of conflict, Celestine's father, Joseph, wanted control over the inheritage. They did produce five children. Oh, they did? Three sons lived to adulthood,

[01:02:18] Megan: adulthood. Yep. Well, she gave him some sons. I mean, thank God for that.

That's the only

[01:02:23] AP: good thing she did. She had only contracted a small portion of the money to be used as a dowry. So it doesn't, this article does not say it was half. It was a smaller portion. Okay. Which is probably what pissed Joseph off even more. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. So in 1830, Micaela or Micaela, defied her husband's orders and traveled to the United States.

Upon arrival in Washington, DC, she was invited to the White House. She, there's rumors that she had a torrid affair with president Jackson. And upon her return to France, she was locked in a room without contact to household staff and shunned by Tintin's family. And the goal was to cause her to forfeit her vast fortune to the Baron.

Nearly 23 years to the day of marriage on October 19th of 1834, He attempted to murder her with two pistols. He shot her four times in the chest. You're taking all my, my stuff. Yeah. And miraculously, she survived, though was permanently maimed, which they didn't

[01:03:18] Megan: really talk about. They didn't talk about

[01:03:20] Amy: that.

They did just say that she survived, but they didn't say

[01:03:22] Megan: nicked

[01:03:22] Amy: an artery,

[01:03:24] AP: which then they said it was like arteries usually spray or like spurt, like veins ooze cause it's not high pressure arteries or higher pressure moving through the system. But her husband she tried to divorce him numerous, numerous times.

They said she divorced him in the episode. She did not divorce him. She tried. Mm hmm. I thought they said

[01:03:43] Amy: she separated. But legally separated. No, they said

[01:03:45] Megan: divorced. They said divorced. They said divorced. Yep.

[01:03:48] AP: Yeah.

But she attempted to divorce him numerous times, but the French courts had strict laws pertaining to divorce and rejected each claim. Her husband attempted to ruin her reputation by publishing excerpts from the court proceedings. She was able to turn the tables on him, however, and that he did not have her best interests as a wife in mind.

By tarnishing her good name, he violated their marriage or oath, and the court finally allowed them to separate but never formally divorce. So she took two sons and left and moved back to Louisiana. United States. Yeah. She took care of him through his life. That's why she's buried back in France. Yeah.

[01:04:23] Megan: So she died at 78 and she's buried next to her husband and father in law.

And then Diane says, I suppose in death, all is forgiven. And I said, the fuck it is.

[01:04:32] Amy: Yeah, I did too. I said, no, it's not. Yeah. Yeah.

[01:04:35] AP: No, definitely not. And then all of her buildings, she had architects redo a lot of the buildings that she owned cause they were derelict. And there's a lot of, uh, letters carved AP.

So for Palisade Arms. Which is what her home was in Louisiana. And so she also had a bronze statue of Andrew Jackson sitting on his horse, which is a focal point of Jackson Square in the area. So she, she commissioned that.

[01:05:04] Amy: Maybe she did have a little thing with him.

[01:05:07] AP: It's too bad she had poor taste in that guy.

And this article, I just want to credit really quick, is The Haunted Librarian. And it's the Bear, Bearness by Tragedy. Her, her name and then Bearness by Tragedy.

[01:05:18] Amy: Yeah, that was a good article. I have that in the show notes. So yeah, it's,

[01:05:20] AP: it's

[01:05:21] Megan: fantastic. So then we, the last bit is Amy sees the lady in red again.

She said she's from a long time ago, 1840s or earlier. She came from money was married at one point, then something happened. She told Amy when they came in there and I'm not sure if Amy meant if when they came in the dining room or if when they came in the restaurant itself, but somewhere around the vicinity, when they came in there.

She came in there for safety. So the woman in red came into the building for safety.

[01:05:53] AP: She said she came to the area for safety. Like she was running in life. She ran from her husband and her father in law.

[01:06:01] Megan: So that's how I make sense. Yeah, that makes more sense. And then she said there's a strong, there's a connection between her and the jester guy.

And she said she had a bad experience with him. He did some really, really bad things. And then she says, Quote, do not trust men because they are bad and they will hurt you or kill you. And then we go to the sketch. I saw several disturbing things on my walk. But two stood out. But two stood out. The jester and the woman in red.

So now we're at the reveal. And I said, Alec and Eddie look like they're related. They do. They do. They look like brothers. Yep. So she starts with the outside. She said lots of residual energy and it's filled with sadness. She said Amy saw people yelling and crying. She got a lot of illness. She was nausea, nauseous, had trouble breathing, seeing people on gurneys.

And then Alex says when he goes out there, he feels exactly the same way. And then that's when Steve talks about the history of the church, the restaurant, Katrina, the hospital a few miles away, how the, the room they're actually in was under four feet of water. And then Amy said a very long, shiiiit.

Yeah, shiiiit.

[01:07:13] AP: There was at least 17 eyes. Yeah,

[01:07:17] Megan: at very least, but one T. So then she talks about the jester. She said he's dressed strangely. The best way she can describe it is as a fancy jester. He was from a long time ago,

[01:07:29] AP: Which really means that the jester, Joseph, followed her from France.

[01:07:36] Amy: He may have spent some time there. Right? Because didn't they live there when they, when they got together and then they went to France?

[01:07:43] AP: Well, yeah, when she first got married, they came over and got married in the U. S. and then shortly after they moved over. She and, and Tintin.

[01:07:52] Amy: Tintin. She did say 1820s. She said he was from quite some time ago.

I would say like 1820s. I don't like this person at all.

[01:08:00] Megan: And then, he feels like he's still the owner and she said her concern is that this person is completely insane. He can make them see and hear things that aren't there. Living people might see him and his focus is on females potentially pulling a chair out so someone would fall on their ass.

And then that's when they talk about how a customer felt flat on the floor and had to be taken away in a stretcher. Which I was like, damn, that is a fall unless it's like an elderly person. Yeah,

[01:08:29] Amy: could have been.

[01:08:30] Megan: But I was like, taken away in a stretcher.

[01:08:33] Amy: I think I told you guys the story about when I was at a concert and it was for a musician that I've been following for 30 years.

And so of course it was all people my age or even older. And there was a lady in front of us that started

[01:08:48] Megan: at five done at six. It was late. We were all early bird special.

[01:08:53] Amy: We had dinner at four and uh,

[01:08:56] Megan: but this lady took a nap beforehand to make sure we were awake. I'm sorry,

[01:09:01] Amy: Amy. This lady in front of us passed out twice.

Oh, just crumpled right, right at my feet. And then they had to take her out. Someone was high and

[01:09:12] AP: didn't have enough

[01:09:13] Amy: water. That could be. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. She was older than me, let's just say. She appeared older than me. I didn't ask her

[01:09:22] Megan: how old she was. Then they talk about the critic in the water, which we've already talked about.

Alec talks about burners and Amy goes, this is bad. And then she said, I had a sketch done and holy shit, this sketch is fucking freaky. That it was

[01:09:41] Amy: so scary. Native American. It looked like a

[01:09:43] Megan: Native American. Oh, it didn't look like that to me. Oh, I thought it did.

[01:09:46] Amy: I think it's the hair.

[01:09:47] AP: It looks like it looks like a zombie Gaston.

[01:09:51] Megan: Yeah. Yes. But the little smirk of the mouth, the smirk, it was so freaky to me. Yeah. I was like, Ooh, that's what I did. I'm fucking, I'm going to kill your fucking stupid fat ass.

[01:10:06] AP: Uh, for those listening and not on the video version, that was her cat.

[01:10:12] Amy: He's making quite an appearance today. He is. He is walked by the, between you and the screen.

Or

[01:10:17] Megan: between you and the camera. 7, 000 times. I hate him. Several times, yeah.

So this is

[01:10:24] Amy: the guy that wants to hurt people. He wants to embarrass people. He wants to humiliate, make people feel uncomfortable. Yep. La la la. And then Amy talks about the,

[01:10:32] Megan: Female. Yep. So she said she's most worried about her, dressed in red from head to toe. And she said Amy felt like she was maybe 1840s, came from money, she'd been married, something bad had happened and changed her significantly, which like every woman ever.

She said someone tried to make her disappear and that's when Steve talks about Micaela Pantabla. And she, you know, her history, her father in law tried to kill her. Then he killed himself. And then Alex like, God, Ty, you feel cold air coming through. And I'm just like, it's the air conditioner, buddy.

It's the dogs. They lick me and then they breathe on me.

[01:11:09] AP: Funny enough, air works in currents and you have things like convection currents, and if it's warm, it rises and then it gets colder and there is slight movements that happen.

[01:11:22] Megan: She said she hates men. She likes to hit, punch, pull hair, push them, anything to get them away from her.

And she said the concerning thing about her is that she has shadow beings with her and she wants to work with them to get rid of people. And like we said, these things were never human. And so they're just they're just hanging out with her and they've partnered together. They're doing actually a daytime reveal which I don't think they'd ever done before because they have to open the restaurant.

So they, she shows them the sketch of the woman with the shadow figures. And to me, they kind of look like like upside down bats almost. They're weird.

[01:11:59] Amy: They look like they're dripping. Yeah, it looks like

[01:12:02] AP: they're drops of water, but because they're not fully formed into anything, but they're like these big giant like teardrops.

But yeah, I can see where you get the bats hanging from the ceiling because it's skinny at the top.

[01:12:14] Amy: So

[01:12:14] Megan: one thing she said that I remember that I didn't, oh, I did write it. So Steve asks if it's safe to open up the restaurant and she says she doesn't know because this woman in red the baroness has work is, has partnered with these shadow entities, but they could go rogue and, and get a conscience and become super destructive if she loses control of them.

So that's where the real danger lies is they're doing what she wants them to do for now. But that might not always last. And if they do get free It'll be, it'll be chaos and destruction, which should be the name of this episode. So can they stay? Amy says, yes, you will need to do things. And she said, it'll be very labor intensive upfront.

So first they're going to need to take care of the jester, get a male physical medium, very big and very strong and assertive to quote, put him in his place and remove him. The next you're going to want to bring in a strong female medium to remove the baroness and once the, the, the baroness leaves the, the place, the church.

Then the shadow entities will move outside with her because they're attached and then. The female medium will be able to take care of her. And then she's like, with the patio, there's a lot of residual that needs to be dealt with. You need to bring in a psychic, like she said psychic so weirdly. Did you

[01:13:40] Amy: notice the closed captions called it saw cake?

[01:13:43] Megan: No, I didn't.

[01:13:44] Amy: S-A-W-C-A-K-E. So

[01:13:46] Megan: that's funny. So I like Soic to show them how to do a, a psychic cleansing, and then that same person will do a proper Brittany blocking put up a barrier to prevent anything from coming back in. And she said this is an active location, so they'll forever have things that are coming and going, but she said it won't ever be this bad once they do those steps.

If they do those steps? If they do those steps, yes. So then we have a video update, and they said before the team came in, every single day was a challenge, and she said, or sorry, not she Alex said they followed their advice. They're still looking for one more medium, but he said they have a couple of leads and they're confident they'll have something soon.

And the activity has calmed down.

[01:14:39] Amy: Amy P has a, has something to say about that. Yeah. And I think

[01:14:43] AP: she's right. I, I put behind there, but which one, which medium did they not get? Well, I have a, I have a quote and this is from again, another article that they linked on their website. It's WGNO.

com. It's news with a twist, hometown horror stories. I

[01:15:02] Megan: did see that one. Yeah.

[01:15:04] AP: The quote is, as it turns out, having such a stylish and influential spectral visitor is not such a bad thing after all. We want the Baroness to stay because this is her land. She's such an influential person. She owned this and she can add a lot to help us be successful.

I felt she pulled me to this building. The way things turned out, I was drawn to this building because of her, says Alec. And another article that I read said they've had problems mostly with Uh, male employees, so they hire mostly women, which just feels like a way to say this is how we can control.

[01:15:39] Amy: Yep.

[01:15:40] Megan: Mm hmm. Mm hmm. That's very

[01:15:44] AP: sexist. That's, that is the way that I read that a little bit, like, oh, well, if she doesn't like men, we'll just hire women and then we don't have to pay them as well. Yep. They can rely on tip money.

[01:15:56] Amy: All the restaurant industry and stuff. Yeah,

[01:15:59] AP: but I just, when I read that part of it, I, cause I know that Amy had already watched this, this part of the episode and I was like, um, Hmm, I

[01:16:11] Amy: don't, I don't think you're right.

I think you're right. I think they didn't even bother to find the psychic to get rid of the Baroness. No, I think

[01:16:17] AP: they did the rest. I think they did. I think they got rid of the jester and I think they had somebody come in and do cleansings on the patio. But that also means that those spectral things are still with her.

Those shadow things are likely still with her. And then you talk about the reviews that they've had and the, you know, issues that they've had. And there was a lot of stuff that they've had high turnover and it's like, I thought you said you were cursed.

[01:16:44] Megan: By dumbness. Yeah. I think

[01:16:46] Amy: a lot of their issues are of their own making.

From what I can tell from the articles and reviews that I have read.

[01:16:55] AP: So that was definitely a great

[01:16:57] Amy: episode. Yeah,

[01:16:59] Megan: good job. It was good. It was really interesting. I liked it a lot. Yeah. Greg being a skeptic, not a skeptic. Oh, thank you.

[01:17:07] Amy: I did forget I was about to wrap up. So wrap it

[01:17:10] Megan: up.

[01:17:13] Amy: The other day we are walking through the dining room on the way to go downstairs and he goes, why is there a handprint on the dining room table?

And I looked and I was like, I didn't see it at first. What I saw when I looked at the table was, you know, like when you put something hot or wet on a table and it leaves like a white ish mark. I saw that and I thought that's what he was talking about. He's like, no, no, that's not what I'm talking about.

There's an actual handprint and you have to get in the right spot exactly to see. It's a handprint like this in the middle of the table. In the center of

[01:17:53] Megan: the table. So no reason for there to be a handprint there. No other

[01:17:57] Amy: prints anywhere around it. Not like

[01:17:59] Megan: you were, you put your hand on the table to put your clothes, your shoes on or something?

No, it's like

[01:18:04] Amy: you have to be, have at least one leg on the table to put your hand there. So then I was like, is it really like, is it in the dust? Cause it's not, you know, it's not super polished or anything. We don't wash that table that often. And so I stuck my finger like at the back part, the heel part of the hand and drew like this, and you could see that little, that little squiggle I made, so it really is.

There is a part of that table that does not have the dust on it that the rest of the table has. Really? That's creepy. I thought it was super weird. And Greg's the one that pointed it out. Yeah. He was like, this is really weird.

[01:18:44] AP: And was it either size, size of either of your hands? It was

[01:18:48] Amy: about the size of mine.

Okay. And then just today, and I haven't told Greg this yet, just today I'm walking around outside and I look down and I see what looks like a glove that maybe has been like unearthed after all the snow or something like that. And I get closer and I look at it and it is a piece of the giant tree we have.

It's part of the bark that came off, landed on the ground right in front of me in the exact shape of a hand. Really? And I'm like, this is two hands I've seen this week. So I took a picture of it. And then I went upstairs and tried to get a video because I haven't cleaned the table. I went up and tried to get a video of the table just so I could see the handprint and I could still see the handprint, but you have to like really get in there at the right angle and the light has to be right and everything.

So I don't think my video turned out very well, but Secondhand. Now if I see a third one, I'm going to flip out.

[01:19:45] Megan: Maybe he reached out to Zoey for someone to see what he, what do you got, Zoey? What do you got going

[01:19:50] Amy: on? I got nothing handy, handsy going on over here. Hey, don't get handsy with me.

[01:19:56] AP: Well, I was just thinking about what are things that you've had a hand in or done something and you recently got rid of your mom's van.

You sold that. True. Yep. Yep. Yep. And that was, you know, like, is it your dad, like, giving off a, like, thanks for taking care of her, getting

[01:20:15] Amy: that? Here's a hand.

[01:20:17] AP: Just, or just, like, being, like, really, like, literal, you've, you've given a lot of, you've Of your time and yourself helping

[01:20:24] Megan: hand. Mm mm-Hmm? . Mm-Hmm. Maybe.

Maybe. I dunno. That's just that I say reach out to Zoey. Yeah. Mm-Hmm. I'll see what she says,

[01:20:31] Amy: but yeah, and I'm just curious. Yeah, it's cool. Curious. So I'm waiting, I'm waiting for the third hand. I, because I think it's always happen in threes, right? So I assume there's gonna be a third hand somewhere. Or maybe a foot.

Maybe a foot. I'll, I'll send you guys the picture of the, I can send you the video too of the, of the table, but I don't think you're going to see anything. I couldn't really see anything. I could see it with my eyes, but I couldn't see it when I looked at my phone. I'm glad you could see it with

[01:20:55] AP: your eyes.

[01:20:55] Amy: Yes.

[01:20:56] Megan: As opposed to your ears.

[01:20:58] Amy: My bare eyes, I meant,

[01:20:59] AP: but yeah. I'm sorry

[01:21:00] Amy: you left that open.

[01:21:02] Megan: Everybody, Amy AP put her sassy pants on today.

[01:21:05] Amy: So, no, I would have walked into that. I mean, I would have done the same thing as you. Hope you're okay. Just like walking

[01:21:11] AP: into a spider web.

[01:21:14] Megan: No. That is,

[01:21:17] Amy: oh god, in our old house, we used to have a spider that would build her web.

Charlotte? Every night. Yeah, we called her Charlotte because we're so creative. At our, on our porch. And you'd have to, you, you wouldn't have to walk through it, but you'd see it because it was on the part where you didn't walk through, but it was, anyway, every morning we would get up and there was elaborate web and it was so cool.

And she'd be sitting in the middle of it. I

[01:21:42] AP: love, I love finding like big spider webs out in the, when I'm out in the woods and stuff and the light glinting off of them is the coolest thing. Yes,

[01:21:51] Amy: especially the dew. If there's dew on there and the light hits it,

[01:21:55] Megan: oh my God, it's amazing. I call them don'ts.

[01:21:57] AP: Well, when you, when you can see them, then you don't walk through them.

[01:22:01] Amy: Yes. Yeah.

[01:22:02] Megan: But that means there's a big fucking spider around. No, I'm good. I'm good. No, she,

[01:22:07] Amy: she was real good at catching her, her dinner and it wasn't going to be us. She was big though. She was, she was probably the size of like a digit of, you know, half of my thumb.

Gross. Yeah. Which

[01:22:19] AP: in Minnesota terms is a large spider.

[01:22:22] Megan: Yeah. Yes. In Megan terms, it's a tarantula. We're not Australia. We're not Australia, so not that big. We don't have legit tarantulas,

[01:22:30] Amy: but no, no. I mean, people have missed pets, but they're not roaming free. I hope we

[01:22:37] Megan: need to stop talking about this because I feel them on my feet.

[01:22:40] Amy: Okay. So that's it today, guys. Thanks for joining us. Everybody that's all folks. And next week we will be meeting with Leah Marie. You may remember her from our episode number 77. She's our shaman. Yep, our interview with a shaman. I can't wait to hear about

[01:22:57] Megan: her travels.

[01:22:58] Amy: She has gone on this amazing trip and she is going to tell us all about it.

And it's all about her learning about. other cultures and spirituality stuff. And she's so fascinating anyway. And then, you know, we're friends on Facebook and so we've been seeing her pictures and just beautiful, beautiful stuff. And hopefully she'll let me use a couple of the pictures in our in our video version.

So we're going to be talking with her next week and we're excited to do that. And then we are still listening, still listening, soliciting, soliciting. That's a good word. I wrote looking, but soliciting makes me sound a lot smarter. We are still soliciting listener stories, so please either email them to us at theactivitycontinues at gmail.

com or hit up our website at theactivitycontinues. com and leave a message there. There's a little icon of a microphone that you can click and speak right into as long as you got a microphone on your phone or computer, which on your phone you do. Or you can typety type a message to us there too. We want to hear your stories.

We want to do another listener story episode soon because those are always really fun. So thanks everybody for joining us and we will see you next week.

[01:24:21] Megan: Bye. Bye. Thank you. Bye.