17 Seances Too Many

TAC 124: 17 Seances Too Many

 

[00:01:19] Amy: Hi Ghosty Fam, Amy here. Welcome to The Activity Continues, a podcast where three soul friends talk about all things paranormal. Ghosts, hauntings, psychics, movies and TV shows, especially the Dead Files and other spooky and spooky adjacent thing. We also like to interview people in the paranormal community, as well Fowls clients and other interesting people.

Sometimes we even tell your stories. I hope you enjoy the show.

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[00:02:00] Amy: Alrighty. Oh, here we are!

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[00:02:04] Amy: We're a little punchy guys. We already have been talking for almost an hour doing our side show. So that was Number 10 that we just did, and

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[00:02:12] Amy: by the time this comes out you will have heard that a month ago, but.

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[00:02:15] Megan Simmons: But if you forgot, go back and listen to it.

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[00:02:18] Amy: Yeah.

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[00:02:18] Megan Simmons: Or if you want to listen again.

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[00:02:20] Amy: And you don't have to cause.

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[00:02:21] Megan Simmons: You don't have to.

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[00:02:24] Megan Simmons: But I mean, if you're like Gosh! I really miss hearing them.

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[00:02:28] Megan Simmons: I wonder what

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[00:02:33] Amy: Ways to find out.

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[00:02:36] Amy P: You'll just remember is the one where Amy Ap. Is real silent at the beginning, because Amy and Megan.

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[00:02:41] Megan Simmons: Oh, my God! We we were!

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[00:02:42] Amy: Bring it around.

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[00:02:43] Amy P: Now.

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[00:02:45] Amy P: That's why I was giggling over here.

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[00:02:48] Megan Simmons: I was like, I I honestly thought something was wrong with Ap. Cause she hadn't talked to him like, Are you okay? She's like.

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[00:02:54] Amy: Smiling.

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[00:02:58] Amy: Oh, well.

 Thanks for joining us again today. We are going to be talking about what might be the most popular episode of the dead files ever. At least, that's what Google says. It's called starvation heights.

 Season one

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 somebody who worked on the show

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[00:03:28] Amy: So I will tell you what he said, he said. His name is Bruce Greenspan, and he said, originally we did 8 episodes for season one.

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[00:03:35] Amy: Then it was extended to 20. We originally considered that season one A and season one B, as they happened at the same time same year, or quote unquote season.

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[00:04:05] Amy P: That makes a lot of sense when you.

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[00:04:06] Amy: Here's it right up for you.

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don't know that there's that enough to do a whole series, but we may revisit it in the future. We may. We're thinking about maybe doing an episode on the actual crime that is involved in or crimes, I should say.

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 They do go in depth into like the physical things that happen so that can be gruesome.

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[00:05:22] Megan Simmons: So note that, and then not sure what else might come up but check the show notes, as always Amy will put anything we talk about that we don't give you a warning to, and that we do in those show notes. So if you're worried or concerned. Just make sure to check those ahead of time.

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[00:05:42] Amy: the only things that I think I just want to remind everybody. If you're not a patron, and you would, are thinking about becoming one. Come on over before November first, st as that is, when it's going to go up for apple users, because

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[00:06:29] Amy: And then also a reminder. Our live show is coming up, and we really need your stories. So.

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 I think that's it for do you guys have anything for housekeeping that you want to bring up? No, no, okay, well, should we just get into it?

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[00:10:27] Amy: They then show the sketch, and Amy says it's the woman who fell down the stairs which we'll find out about. That would be one of the sisters, but the rest of the group decides it matches Dr. Hazard. Amy explains why this could be happening, and that part's interesting.

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[00:10:59] Megan Simmons: A fun fact about Olala.

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[00:11:02] Megan Simmons: It is 2 h and 46 min from Forks

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[00:11:23] Megan Simmons: Do not besmirch the love that Edward and Bella feel as teenagers, because if we know one thing, it is that teen love is forever.

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[00:11:35] Megan Simmons: So are you.

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[00:11:42] Amy: Yes.

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[00:22:09] Megan Simmons: We can leave. Yeah.

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[00:22:25] Amy: Why would they? Why wouldn't.

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[00:22:28] Amy P: But you've watched the show ghost. But you've watched the show ghosts, too. Yeah.

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[00:22:44] Amy P: I think, but I think because the damage was done so much in the house, because, even like in the show ghosts, you've got the tertiary characters that live off in a barn or a shed somewhere in a different part of the property, and they don't really come in to that area. You've got the the basement people that stay in their areas.

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[00:23:17] Amy P: Yeah, and I'm flopped at that. So.

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[00:23:22] Megan Simmons: It's funny. It's both both.

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[00:23:34] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

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[00:23:38] Amy: And what else? Anybody have anything in that section? There.

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[00:23:41] Amy P: We didn't have a lot about with Logan's dad.

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[00:23:44] Amy: Yeah, okay, let's talk about Logan's dad. We meet. We meet Shane, his dad.

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[00:24:02] Amy P: come on, you'd know more than you're letting on, though dude like. There's no way you haven't researched. If you found out that you were living in the wilderness heights

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[00:24:12] Megan Simmons: Exactly my point.

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[00:24:14] Megan Simmons: They're only answering enough to appease Steve.

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[00:24:18] Megan Simmons: They're not giving the full story.

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[00:24:20] Amy P: Yeah, he said. Oh, she's done some pretty terrible things I'm like.

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[00:24:24] Amy P: She was insane and greedy and murdered people.

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[00:24:27] Amy: Yeah.

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[00:24:28] Megan Simmons: And I said, Oh, goody, I can't wait to hear about this, because it's just

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[00:24:35] Megan Simmons: She was awful. She was awful.

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[00:24:46] Megan Simmons: construction.

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[00:24:47] Amy P: At Atlanta.

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[00:24:48] Megan Simmons: Seances. Yeah, like, what's next? A portal like what?

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[00:24:52] Megan Simmons: And and incorporating old into the new. You're asking to be haunted. I'm sorry, but you're especially if he knows what Dr. Lazzard did in that house.

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[00:25:03] Amy P: The hazard, honey.

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[00:25:04] Amy: When done.

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[00:25:04] Amy P: Hazard. Lazard is a he's a football player, you, said Lazard.

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[00:25:09] Megan Simmons: Oh, Dr. Hazard.

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[00:25:11] Amy: Hazard.

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[00:25:11] Megan Simmons: Guys. I was so impassioned

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[00:25:16] Megan Simmons: I completely changed the name.

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[00:25:17] Amy: Sometimes the words just spill right out. It's okay.

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[00:25:19] Megan Simmons: Do.

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[00:25:21] Megan Simmons: But yes, the point is, you're asked. I mean, I'm not saying it was their fault because it was, but not because of this. But.

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[00:25:28] Amy: Just don't.

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[00:25:29] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

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[00:25:29] Amy: Yeah, when you take stuff from a place that has trauma and bad energy and shit like that.

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[00:25:37] Amy: don't expect that you can put it in your house, and everything's going to be hunky. Dory.

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[00:25:42] Megan Simmons: Some cleansing ritual or something.

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[00:25:45] Megan Simmons: just to make sure that anything that was attached to it is able to be freed.

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[00:25:50] Amy P: And to be fair like I can

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[00:25:52] Amy P: can see that aspect of like. It's a well made.

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[00:25:56] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

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[00:25:57] Amy P: Beautiful we lived in this house previously. We really enjoy like we want to have some of that old bones feeling so there's nothing to me. There's nothing wrong with that, because there are people

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[00:26:09] Amy P: that you see, something that you're like. Well, this was well made.

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[00:26:13] Amy P: but you do have to be aware that if you have people that are sensitive in your life, that.

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[00:26:18] Amy: Yes.

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[00:26:18] Amy P: There could be some unintentional consequences of that.

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[00:26:23] Amy P: and he does say that he's pretty skeptical, but

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[00:26:27] Amy P: there certainly is something going on that's affecting my family. I'm like, okay, at least he's acknowledging that.

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[00:26:33] Amy: Yeah, and he.

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[00:26:35] Amy P: I just.

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[00:26:35] Amy: Like that. He was like, Yeah, I get I I know there. So I don't have any personal experiences, but I do believe them. You know. I believe my son, and he's he sorry.

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[00:26:52] Amy: I believe the dad. I think I do, too.

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[00:26:55] Megan Simmons: I do believe the dad.

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[00:26:58] Amy P: So, yeah.

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[00:27:00] Megan Simmons: The dad is kind of an innocent bystander. In all this, in my opinion.

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[00:27:03] Amy: Yeah, he probably is.

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[00:27:06] Megan Simmons: I mean Logan's innocent, too. He just, you know, he's a kid. He was doing something he shouldn't have been doing.

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[00:27:12] Amy: Doing all these.

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[00:27:13] Amy P: Things you see in movies.

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[00:27:15] Amy: That will be starting.

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[00:27:16] Amy: He probably started doing these years ago.

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[00:27:19] Amy: You know he didn't do them all this year. I don't think so. He was a little, you know, young, much younger kid.

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[00:27:24] Megan Simmons: Probably like.

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[00:27:25] Amy: Doing all this.

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[00:27:30] Megan Simmons: We can't get through and.

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[00:27:31] Amy: Have some copies.

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[00:27:34] Megan Simmons: We can't go through an episode without referencing it. I'm sorry.

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[00:27:37] Amy: Oh, poor, poor Brittany!

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[00:27:40] Amy: It's true, I mean not really, but.

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[00:27:41] Megan Simmons: No.

[00:27:42] Amy: you mentioned Megan. You mentioned Amy's expression.

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[00:27:44] Megan Simmons: Yeah, in the.

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[00:27:45] Amy: She's going through.

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[00:27:47] Megan Simmons: So we're we're back with Amy now, and she's talking about. There's somebody here a female screaming

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[00:28:07] Megan Simmons: They are so creepy because she's like tilting her head, and her eyes are like super wide open. And I agree with what Amy said. It doesn't look like her in that.

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[00:28:17] Amy P: In that.

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[00:28:17] Megan Simmons: Area in that incident. Like she, it is not Amy there. So it just really like freaked me out when I.

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[00:28:24] Amy P: Was, my.

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[00:28:24] Megan Simmons: Watching this episode. And she's like.

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[00:28:26] Megan Simmons: Yeah, it was just eerie.

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[00:28:28] Amy: Yeah. Greg has walked in when I've been watching before. He's like

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[00:28:32] Amy: she's weird

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[00:28:35] Amy: she is. She's she's goofy. 1st of all, you know, just her personality is kind of goofy.

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[00:28:42] Amy: She's got somebody else in her body, making her make those faces.

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[00:28:46] Megan Simmons: He doesn't believe that. So.

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[00:28:48] Amy: He doesn't believe that.

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[00:28:48] Megan Simmons: Skeptic.

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[00:28:49] Amy: That's okay. I got him a birthday card that said the

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[00:28:53] Amy: I know I showed it to you guys, but it said

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[00:28:59] Amy: and his picture cartoon of Bigfoot on the front and inside it says just kidding. He doesn't believe in you.

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[00:29:06] Megan Simmons: Did he laugh?

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[00:29:07] Amy: Yeah, he did. He got nice.

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[00:29:10] Amy: and I noted the banister Ap. And I were messaging about this banister. He did, because we, Megan, we didn't think you'd seen it yet, so we were. Didn't want to.

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[00:29:19] Megan Simmons: Fair.

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[00:29:19] Amy: Yeah, so we don't wanna

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[00:29:21] Amy: spoil anything for you but the bannister. There's 1.

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[00:29:25] Amy P: The old house.

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[00:29:34] Amy: it it looks spooky. And I and I thought that they had that the part I was looking at was in the new house, and that they had pulled it from the old house. But

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[00:29:46] Amy: Ap looked at it a little closer. And you think right that it came that what we were looking at was the old house.

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[00:29:52] Amy P: So, yeah.

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[00:29:53] Amy: Cut off part of it, and taken it over to.

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[00:30:12] Amy: Oh, shit! I used to know the name of that. We used to have those in our old house.

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[00:30:16] Megan Simmons: Ball thing.

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[00:30:17] Amy: Yeah, the but but.

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[00:30:18] Amy P: They took the the big part of that that comes down just for the bottom part of their stairs in the new house, cause you can see it, cause if you look at the wood on this. And then, Amy, I sent you a picture of. I took a just a picture of that. It's the same wood which explains why there's such a sharp cut right where I'm looking at the picture on my phone here. Yeah. And that explains why there's such a sharp cut right there, because they cut it so that it would fit exactly to.

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[00:30:45] Amy P: Where they just need to trim a little bit for the wall.

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[00:30:48] Megan Simmons: That makes sense.

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[00:30:49] Amy: Yeah.

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[00:30:51] Amy P: And then where they ended up putting this, if you look at it, this is the railings on

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[00:30:56] Amy P: as you're coming down the stairs would be on the left hand side, and I believe, where the

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[00:31:02] Amy P: where they put the banister railing in the new house. You're coming down on the right hand side.

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[00:31:06] Amy P: Because it's on. It's like the curve coming around. The bottom of the stairs.

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[00:31:11] Amy: Okay.

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[00:31:13] Amy: yeah. It's anyway. It's it's weird. And there's a part where Steve is walking up the stairs, and he looks at it.

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[00:31:20] Amy: He's like just cut off. He doesn't say anything.

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[00:31:22] Amy: But he does notice it.

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[00:31:24] Amy P: Yeah, it's it's a bit of a hazard there to leave. I think it's like 3 or 4 stairs with no railing.

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[00:31:30] Megan Simmons: Oh!

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[00:31:31] Amy: Yeah, but I don't think they figure anybody's over there except ghosts.

507

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[00:31:35] Megan Simmons: And the kids doing that. But they're not going up and down the stairs. They're just doing that.

508

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[00:31:39] Amy: Probably not, I would hope not.

509

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[00:31:43] Amy: Alright. We all had some notes about Lori.

510

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[00:31:44] Megan Simmons: Oh, God!

511

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[00:31:46] Amy: She says, I've had experiences. Yeah.

512

[00:31:48] 00: 31:52.860 --> 00:31:53.800

[00:31:48] Amy: And then

513

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[00:31:50] Amy: She doesn't ever say what they are.

514

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[00:31:53] Megan Simmons: No.

515

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[00:31:53] Amy: Maybe it. Maybe it was cut.

516

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[00:31:56] Amy: That's a good. It's a good.

517

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[00:31:57] Megan Simmons: Cause. Yeah, Steve just goes right in. And it's like, Oh, okay. So.

518

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[00:32:00] Amy: So do you think it's.

519

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[00:32:01] Megan Simmons: Sir.

520

[00:32:01] 00: 32:06.240 --> 00:32:09.470

[00:32:01] Amy: Yeah. And then she says, No, she doesn't think that they're actually in danger.

521

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[00:32:08] Megan Simmons: Yeah, and I said, she's withholding things like answering his questions, but not like

522

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[00:32:14] Megan Simmons: all at once. And I said, I wonder where Logan gets it from. She also strikes me as the type, and I think Ap said something similar, as she's the type that would say, Well, boys will be boys.

523

[00:32:25] 00: 32:29.405 --> 00:32:29.780

[00:32:25] Amy: But.

524

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[00:32:25] Amy P: That's exactly the vibe that I got. Well.

525

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[00:32:27] Megan Simmons: And hate that.

526

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[00:32:28] Amy: Yeah.

527

[00:32:28] 00: 32:32.890 --> 00:32:40.595

[00:32:28] Amy P: It's well, it was more like, well, kids, they're just kids. I mean, they're gonna they're gonna do dumb kids stuff. So it's

528

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[00:32:37] Amy P: It was either that or it's like, well, kids will create their own hysteria like if they get freaked out that they'll just look at somebody else.

529

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[00:32:43] Megan Simmons: Peter.

530

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[00:32:43] Amy P: Were you freaked out and.

531

[00:32:44] 00: 32:48.810 --> 00:32:49.600

[00:32:44] Amy: Yeah.

532

[00:32:45] 00: 32:49.900 --> 00:32:52.909

[00:32:45] Megan Simmons: She's she seems disconnected to me.

533

[00:32:48] 00: 32:53.410 --> 00:32:54.900

[00:32:49] Megan Simmons: or maybe denial.

534

[00:32:50] 00: 32:55.230 --> 00:32:55.840

[00:32:50] Amy: Yeah.

535

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[00:32:51] Megan Simmons: But I just

536

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[00:32:54] Megan Simmons: she wasn't my favorite character and or person.

537

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[00:32:57] Amy: Character.

538

[00:32:57] 00: 33:02.670 --> 00:33:05.300

[00:32:58] Megan Simmons: He wasn't my favorite character. I didn't like how they developed.

539

[00:33:00] 00: 33:05.300 --> 00:33:06.319

[00:33:00] Amy: The mom in this one.

540

[00:33:01] 00: 33:06.320 --> 00:33:09.499

[00:33:02] Megan Simmons: He was the mom. Yeah, I don't like the casting for it. Yeah.

541

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[00:33:07] Amy: Alright. So we're in the new house with Amy. She says that the angry woman with the broken face is out for blood. She's plotting against a woman who lives in the house. She wants to do it the same way. She wants to execute this plan. She wants to do the same way that she did herself.

542

[00:33:25] 00: 33:30.240 --> 00:33:35.670

[00:33:26] Amy: and I said so like suicide. Does that mean? She threw herself down the stairs.

543

[00:33:31] 00: 33:36.570 --> 00:33:38.090

[00:33:32] Megan Simmons: That's what it sounded like.

544

[00:33:33] 00: 33:38.090 --> 00:33:38.640

[00:33:33] Amy: Yeah.

545

[00:33:34] 00: 33:38.640 --> 00:33:39.749

[00:33:34] Amy P: Yeah, definitely, the.

546

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[00:33:35] Megan Simmons: Same way she did it

547

[00:33:36] 00: 33:41.280 --> 00:33:45.450

[00:33:37] Megan Simmons: herself. Like, that's yeah it. She made it sound like suicide.

548

[00:33:40] 00: 33:45.450 --> 00:33:46.020

[00:33:41] Amy: Yeah.

549

[00:33:41] 00: 33:46.480 --> 00:33:49.030

[00:33:41] Amy P: And make it easier without the railing and parts of a.

550

[00:33:44] 00: 33:49.030 --> 00:33:51.530

[00:33:44] Amy: Yeah. The old house. Yeah.

 when we get into into Section 2 here, where Steve starts digging through things, they're showing the car driving. But they have the camera on the ground, looking up at the newspaper and mailboxes, but it was just the newspaper bins.

[00:34:00] Amy P: 555

[00:34:01] 00: 34:18.820 --> 00:34:19.880

[00:34:02] Amy P: and so.

556

[00:34:02] 00: 34:19.880 --> 00:34:20.460

[00:34:03] Amy: Percent.

557

[00:34:03] 00: 34:20.469 --> 00:34:24.379

[00:34:03] Amy P: Oh, it! It's just such an odd choice, because it wasn't like

558

[00:34:07] 00: 34:24.789 --> 00:34:36.969

[00:34:07] Amy P: super scenic or like anything else. It was kind of just aimed towards the newspaper boxes and then having the car driving down the road past. Yeah, I don't know. It was somebody's creative licensing. Yeah.

559

[00:34:19] 00: 34:36.969 --> 00:34:38.419

[00:34:20] Amy: Trying trying to be.

560

[00:34:21] 00: 34:38.420 --> 00:34:39.460

[00:34:21] Megan Simmons: Trying to be artistic.

561

[00:34:22] 00: 34:39.460 --> 00:34:40.010

[00:34:22] Amy: Yeah,

562

[00:34:23] 00: 34:40.871 --> 00:34:44.610

[00:34:23] Megan Simmons: The 1st thing I noted was the mountain in the background is

563

[00:34:27] 00: 34:44.909 --> 00:34:46.360

[00:34:27] Megan Simmons: fucking, stunning.

564

[00:34:29] 00: 34:46.690 --> 00:34:48.829

[00:34:29] Amy P: That's why I looked up where Olala is in a.

565

[00:34:31] 00: 34:48.830 --> 00:34:49.230

[00:34:31] Megan Simmons: Was.

566

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[00:34:32] Amy P: The it's Green Mountain might be the mountain there in the cascade in the Cascade Range.

567

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[00:34:38] Amy: Yeah, it was really pretty. I I did a little.

568

[00:34:40] 00: 34:57.690 --> 00:34:58.470

[00:34:40] Megan Simmons: My God.

569

[00:34:41] 00: 34:58.700 --> 00:35:00.830

[00:34:41] Amy: I did a little research, trying to find the house.

570

[00:34:43] 00: 35:01.390 --> 00:35:09.190

[00:34:44] Amy: And because I wanted to see if the other house was torn down. And so I was Google Mapping and trying to find where the Hazzard House was, and if it was still there.

571

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[00:34:52] Amy: and I did a little found the street that I think I think it's the street that it's on. And I was Google walking up and down the street. And it it's really pretty. It's very green. It's very lush. It's just a really beautiful area. I would not want to live there. It would freak me out, because nothing is nearby. Yeah, but

572

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[00:35:12] Amy: But it's really beautiful.

573

[00:35:12] 00: 35:30.080 --> 00:35:32.239

[00:35:12] Megan Simmons: I mean, I will say in the twilight movies

574

[00:35:15] 00: 35:32.590 --> 00:35:34.149

[00:35:16] Megan Simmons: it is very pretty. There.

575

[00:35:17] 00: 35:34.490 --> 00:35:35.230

[00:35:17] Amy: Yeah.

576

[00:35:18] 00: 35:35.560 --> 00:35:38.270

[00:35:19] Amy: I did see. I did see. I saw them with riff tracks.

577

[00:35:22] 00: 35:38.810 --> 00:35:40.150

[00:35:22] Amy: The only way to do it.

578

[00:35:22] 00: 35:40.150 --> 00:35:43.649

[00:35:23] Megan Simmons: Oh, my God, okay. Now I gotta find those

579

[00:35:26] 00: 35:43.970 --> 00:35:47.319

[00:35:27] Megan Simmons: and watch it, because that would be delightful.

580

[00:35:30] 00: 35:48.230 --> 00:35:49.110

[00:35:30] Amy: Again.

581

[00:35:30] 00: 35:50.320 --> 00:35:51.110

[00:35:30] Megan Simmons: Anyways.

582

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[00:35:30] Amy: Do that. Okay? So we talked to Mariah that she was. There. Wasn't that much there. She's the one that was she was shaken during one of the seances, and she talks about it.

583

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[00:35:45] Amy: Megan. Steve thought that there was someone playing a joke on her.

584

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[00:35:51] Amy: and.

585

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[00:35:51] Amy P: Making, my.

586

[00:35:52] 00: 36:09.220 --> 00:36:11.070

[00:35:52] Amy: If there was a dog there. Yeah.

587

[00:35:53] 00: 36:11.290 --> 00:36:11.939

[00:35:54] Amy: I just.

588

[00:35:54] 00: 36:11.940 --> 00:36:12.610

[00:35:54] Megan Simmons: Wondered.

589

[00:35:54] 00: 36:12.610 --> 00:36:13.550

[00:35:54] Amy: I just wondered.

590

[00:35:56] 00: 36:13.550 --> 00:36:17.599

[00:35:56] Megan Simmons: If maybe the dog shook her. I don't know.

591

[00:36:00] 00: 36:18.100 --> 00:36:19.309

[00:36:01] Amy P: She was on something.

592

[00:36:02] 00: 36:20.220 --> 00:36:21.940

[00:36:03] Megan Simmons: Maybe she's boozing. Yep.

593

[00:36:04] 00: 36:21.940 --> 00:36:23.100

[00:36:04] Amy: Yeah. Maybe she was.

594

[00:36:06] 00: 36:23.300 --> 00:36:24.110

[00:36:07] Megan Simmons: Ya boozin'?

595

36:24.110 -->

[00:36:07] 00: 00:36:24.870

[00:36:07] Amy: Abusin.

596

[00:36:08] 00: 36:25.650 --> 00:36:28.470

[00:36:08] Megan Simmons: She was boozing with the dog, and.

597

[00:36:11] 00: 36:28.470 --> 00:36:31.760

[00:36:11] Amy P: With her medication that obviously causes hallucinations. Yes.

598

[00:36:14] 00: 36:31.760 --> 00:36:33.360

[00:36:14] Amy: Yeah, yeah, got it right?

599

[00:36:16] 00: 36:33.360 --> 00:36:34.280

[00:36:16] Amy P: Altogether.

600

[00:36:16] 00: 36:34.590 --> 00:36:35.210

[00:36:17] Amy: And something.

601

[00:36:18] 00: 36:35.400 --> 00:36:38.449

[00:36:18] Megan Simmons: Smoking, you boozing. She was having a good old time.

602

[00:36:21] 00: 36:38.450 --> 00:36:54.190

[00:36:21] Amy P: She did say that she had to be like. She doesn't remember being carried out, but people had to carry her out of there. I don't know. It was just such a weird way. She was describing things like she was told by somebody to only give part of the story

603

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[00:36:37] Amy P: cause it. Really, she didn't have a lot of emotion behind it.

604

[00:36:40] 00: 36:58.180 --> 00:36:58.800

[00:36:41] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

605

[00:36:42] 00: 36:59.210 --> 00:37:13.290

[00:36:42] Amy: Could also have been nervous, being on on TV, or and she maybe said more, and they cut it, or they said, Don't say that or something while she was, and then she got nervous while she was, Yeah, who knows who knows what's going on? I wish somebody that was on the set would be able to tell us.

606

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[00:36:56] Amy P: Then she she he was like, Are you going to go back? She's like, no, never. I'm like you've been to 17 seances already. Yeah.

607

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[00:37:03] Megan Simmons: She's like. But that 18, th that is where I draw the line.

608

[00:37:04] 00: 37:23.460 --> 00:37:24.660

[00:37:04] Amy P: May not have been to all of them.

609

[00:37:06] 00: 37:24.660 --> 00:37:30.329

[00:37:06] Amy: She may not have been to all of them. She may have been to the 1st one, and yeah, and that scared her, and she never went back.

610

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[00:37:13] Megan Simmons: One thing. I wonder.

611

[00:37:14] 00: 37:31.670 --> 00:37:32.520

[00:37:14] Amy: Mariah.

612

[00:37:15] 00: 37:32.660 --> 00:37:38.119

[00:37:15] Megan Simmons: Is when she was talking about what happened, and she blacked out and fell to the ground.

613

[00:37:20] 00: 37:38.340 --> 00:37:41.639

[00:37:21] Megan Simmons: I almost wondered if that could have been some sort of a seizure.

614

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[00:37:25] Amy: Too bad. Yeah.

615

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[00:37:26] Megan Simmons: You know, she said I was I they picked me up. I don't remember walking. They carried me outside so just wondering

616

[00:37:32] 00: 37:50.260 --> 00:37:52.360

[00:37:33] Megan Simmons: could that have been some sort of

617

[00:37:35] 00: 37:52.610 --> 00:37:57.619

[00:37:35] Megan Simmons: yeah, you know, seizure or something, because they're not all I mean, most seizures aren't like the

618

[00:37:40] 00: 37:57.780 --> 00:37:58.809

[00:37:40] Megan Simmons: shaking kind that you.

619

[00:37:41] 00: 37:59.120 --> 00:37:59.830

[00:37:41] Amy P: And Mall.

620

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[00:37:41] Amy: Right. I knew somebody who had seizures that you couldn't even tell.

621

[00:37:46] 00: 38:03.990 --> 00:38:04.570

[00:37:46] Megan Simmons: Yeah, they just.

622

[00:37:47] 00: 38:04.570 --> 00:38:10.399

[00:37:47] Amy: She would just like her eyes would just sort of grow funny, and she would stare off into space, and

623

[00:37:53] 00: 38:10.580 --> 00:38:14.620

[00:37:53] Amy: we just thought she was daydreaming or something, and she, you know, she was having seizures.

624

[00:37:57] 00: 38:14.620 --> 00:38:17.680

[00:37:57] Megan Simmons: I mean, especially if you're in a seance. And that happens.

625

[00:38:00] 00: 38:17.870 --> 00:38:20.409

[00:38:00] Megan Simmons: yeah, people might think that you're just, you know.

626

[00:38:03] 00: 38:20.800 --> 00:38:23.810

[00:38:03] Megan Simmons: being overcome by a spirit or something, so I don't know. It just

627

[00:38:06] 00: 38:24.000 --> 00:38:27.200

[00:38:07] Megan Simmons: crossed my mind that yeah, it could have been a seizure.

628

[00:38:09] 00: 38:29.520 --> 00:38:38.349

[00:38:12] Amy: I thought it was weird when Amy and Matt are walking around, and he and she's just walking around and kind of feeling stuff, and he goes steps up. Wait careful, careful.

629

[00:38:21] 00: 38:38.890 --> 00:38:43.050

[00:38:21] Amy: And it's because she was about to walk off the this piece of

630

[00:38:26] 00: 38:43.080 --> 00:38:46.990

[00:38:26] Amy: flooring that just went off into like dirt.

631

[00:38:29] 00: 38:47.310 --> 00:38:52.379

[00:38:30] Amy P: Yeah, it was like the it was like, if somebody took a patio off of the back porch. Yeah.

632

[00:38:35] 00: 38:52.380 --> 00:38:56.820

[00:38:35] Amy: And she was like, well, that's weird. I thought it went further back, and she's like I'm seeing a room here.

633

[00:38:39] 00: 38:56.910 --> 00:39:09.690

[00:38:40] Amy: so I'm guessing there was a room there, and that's what she was seeing, because she was, you know, connecting with either she's connecting with Dr. Linda, or she's connecting with the some of the victims.

634

[00:38:52] 00: 39:10.430 --> 00:39:11.850

[00:38:53] Amy: Could be. Both could be

635

[00:38:54] 00: 39:11.970 --> 00:39:13.220

[00:38:55] Amy: neither, but

636

[00:38:55] 00: 39:13.550 --> 00:39:14.750

[00:38:56] Amy: probably both.

637

[00:38:58] 00: 39:15.410 --> 00:39:20.439

[00:38:58] Amy: But I thought that was kind of, and she said, It's kind of like a vortex. As Megan mentioned what next portals.

638

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[00:39:03] Megan Simmons: Oh, see, then.

639

[00:39:04] 00: 39:21.730 --> 00:39:22.189

[00:39:04] Amy: There you go!

640

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[00:39:05] Megan Simmons: Yes. Yeah.

641

[00:39:07] 00: 39:24.910 --> 00:39:25.440

[00:39:07] Amy: Talk, to.

642

[00:39:08] 00: 39:25.440 --> 00:39:26.999

[00:39:08] Amy P: Well, she did say that

643

[00:39:09] 00: 39:27.020 --> 00:39:39.939

[00:39:10] Amy P: somebody may have opened a dangerous gateway, so she also. So there may have been something there, or it could have been another person that came through this, and it was like they were projecting their house.

644

[00:39:22] 00: 39:40.020 --> 00:39:42.700

[00:39:23] Amy P: So there's a lot of different things. But I

645

[00:39:25] 00: 39:42.710 --> 00:39:49.509

[00:39:25] Amy P: the way that it was built, too, and the way that they, you know, they built their own house with their own 2 hands.

646

[00:39:32] 00: 39:49.750 --> 00:39:50.220

[00:39:32] Amy: Yeah.

647

[00:39:33] 00: 39:50.220 --> 00:39:51.080

[00:39:33] Megan Simmons: Yeah, I bet.

648

[00:39:34] 00: 39:51.380 --> 00:39:52.280

[00:39:34] Amy P: You know it.

649

[00:39:35] 00: 39:52.801 --> 00:39:57.220

[00:39:37] Amy P: Maybe they took a part of the house, too. Who knows?

650

[00:39:39] 00: 39:57.220 --> 00:40:00.040

[00:39:40] Megan Simmons: I can't really see Lori up there with spackle and a hammer.

651

[00:39:43] 00: 40:00.865 --> 00:40:01.689

[00:39:43] Amy: Maybe.

652

[00:39:44] 00: 40:01.990 --> 00:40:06.209

[00:39:44] Megan Simmons: I mean, I'm you're. I've been wrong before 5 times, and.

653

[00:39:48] 00: 40:06.210 --> 00:40:08.019

[00:39:49] Amy: It's just 5, just.

654

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[00:39:51] Megan Simmons: Also, if you're watching this episode and you want to play a drinking game.

655

[00:39:56] 00: 40:13.520 --> 00:40:14.310

[00:39:56] Amy: Oh, you could!

656

[00:39:57] 00: 40:14.310 --> 00:40:17.329

[00:39:57] Megan Simmons: Drink every time you see a ring shot, because there were a lot of them in this.

657

[00:40:00] 00: 40:17.330 --> 00:40:19.980

[00:40:00] Amy: You would be shit, effaced.

658

[00:40:02] 00: 40:20.260 --> 00:40:26.279

[00:40:03] Megan Simmons: Well, don't chug it, but, you know, take a little nice dainty sip of your wine, or whatever you're drinking.

659

[00:40:08] 00: 40:26.280 --> 00:40:27.279

[00:40:08] Amy: There were a lot of.

660

[00:40:08] 00: 40:27.280 --> 00:40:30.489

[00:40:09] Megan Simmons: There were a lot of ring shots, but it was decent. One.

661

[00:40:13] 00: 40:30.490 --> 00:40:31.710

[00:40:13] Amy: Yeah, it was.

662

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[00:40:15] Amy: it was. And I noticed in the reveal, he's got 2 rings. He's got one on each hand, so I can see why they got to kind of double it up a little bit. Yeah.

663

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[00:40:23] Megan Simmons: They got to showcase them all, one.

664

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[00:40:25] Amy P: High school, ring.

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[00:40:27] Megan Simmons: Yeah, it could be.

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[00:40:28] Amy: It could be. Yeah could be.

667

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[00:40:30] Amy: I don't know. I was.

668

[00:40:31] 00: 40:48.350 --> 00:40:50.569

[00:40:31] Amy P: I was being facetious, but.

669

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[00:40:33] Megan Simmons: We went with it. We were like, Yeah, that's true.

670

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[00:40:35] Amy: I'm not gonna tell you you're wrong.

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[00:40:37] Amy: Yeah, I don't know.

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[00:40:39] Amy: So then we meet. I believe.

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[00:40:40] Megan Simmons: Everything. So I mean.

674

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[00:40:41] Amy: That's true.

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[00:40:43] Amy: We meet Greg Olson. He's the author. He wrote a book about Starvation Heights. I actually read. One of his books

676

[00:40:49] 00: 41:06.120 --> 00:41:10.380

[00:40:49] Amy: came to me, and like that kindle thing where you get a free book every every. Is it good?

677

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[00:40:54] Amy: I remember liking it. I went back and looked at like I read. I found it on Amazon. I went back and looked. I don't honestly remember.

678

[00:41:01] 00: 41:18.567 --> 00:41:24.172

[00:41:01] Amy: The book that well, but when I saw his name I was like I read a book by him, so I remembered that much of it, anyway.

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[00:41:07] Megan Simmons: Good job.

680

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[00:41:08] Amy P: I recognize his name as a tight end football player.

681

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[00:41:12] Amy: Oh, okay.

682

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[00:41:13] Megan Simmons: Sure, probably not. The same guy.

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[00:41:15] Amy P: No, no.

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[00:41:16] Amy: Probably not. No.

685

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[00:41:17] Amy: so this guy gives shows us a picture of Dr. Linda Hazard, and talks about how

686

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[00:41:24] Amy: she built this sort of

687

[00:41:26] 00: 41:44.850 --> 00:41:47.519

[00:41:27] Amy: like a health farm. Sort of thing.

688

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[00:41:30] Amy P: Home.

689

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[00:41:30] Amy: To help people, help.

690

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[00:41:32] Amy P: Richard.

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[00:41:32] Amy: Or yeah to starve people back to health.

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[00:41:37] Amy: That was how she thought.

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[00:41:38] Amy P: He said.

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[00:41:39] Amy: Cure, everybody.

695

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[00:41:39] Amy P: She'll take you down to skin and bones. Then she'll build you back up to perfect health, basically starving you. And I just said, thanks, Captain, Obvious.

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[00:41:48] Megan Simmons: Oh, wow! Is that what starving is? Thank you.

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[00:41:51] Amy P: Is that? Is that what's bringing you down to skin and bones like literally, is.

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[00:41:55] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

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[00:41:56] Amy: Yeah. Oh, and they all they got was asparagus water

700

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[00:41:59] Amy: to adjust.

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[00:42:00] Amy P: Asparagus broth.

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[00:42:01] 00: 42:18.130 --> 00:42:19.950

[00:42:01] Megan Simmons: He was rancid.

703

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[00:42:02] Amy: Oh, yeah.

704

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[00:42:03] Amy P: Fun. Fact, only a handful of us. It's only like a 3rd of the population can actually smell asparagus in your urine.

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[00:42:09] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

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[00:42:09] 00: 42:27.200 --> 00:42:28.089

[00:42:10] Amy: Oh, I can.

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[00:42:10] Amy P: I can.

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[00:42:11] Amy: Greg can, too.

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[00:42:12] Megan Simmons: Yeah. It's every time we have.

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[00:42:13] Amy: Asparagus we're like, Oh.

711

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[00:42:16] Amy P: It seems like more of us should be able to, but apparently not as many people.

712

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[00:42:22] Amy P: coffee and apple cider as well.

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[00:42:25] Amy: Oh, I get.

714

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[00:42:26] Amy P: I smell.

715

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[00:42:27] Amy: Apple, said Andrew.

716

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[00:42:27] Megan Simmons: Really.

717

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[00:42:28] Amy: I wouldn't.

718

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[00:42:28] Amy P: Fairly quickly! Yup!

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[00:42:30] Amy: Oh, every time I drink like not just like Decaf. It must be the caffeine for me, anyway, because when I I drink an an iced Decaf coffee every single morning, and I don't smell it. But if I have real coffee, hot

720

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[00:42:42] Amy: caffeinated coffee.

721

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[00:42:44] Amy: I my piecemeals. I got.

722

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[00:42:45] Megan Simmons: It's not.

723

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[00:42:46] Amy P: Every

724

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[00:42:47] Amy P: in a coffee that I smell. But yeah.

725

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[00:42:52] Megan Simmons: And I've never noticed that.

726

[00:42:53] 00: 43:10.460 --> 00:43:11.090

[00:42:53] Amy: Coffee.

727

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[00:42:54] Megan Simmons: I mean. I have coffee every day, 2 counts.

728

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[00:42:56] Amy: You're probably it's probably not. Doesn't do that to you. Then.

729

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[00:43:00] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

730

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[00:43:01] Amy P: Yeah, you would notice, okay.

731

[00:43:03] 00: 43:20.330 --> 00:43:22.910

[00:43:03] Megan Simmons: Then. Yeah, I don't notice it, so it must not be me.

732

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[00:43:06] Amy P: And also fun. Fact. Asparagus are. Once they're an established plant, they come back, but they are. You can't eat them the 1st year that you're growing them.

733

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[00:43:15] Megan Simmons: Why?

734

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[00:43:17] Amy: Are they poisonous, or are they too small?

735

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[00:43:19] Megan Simmons: Are they not good?

736

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[00:43:21] Amy: She fails.

737

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[00:43:23] Megan Simmons: Never know.

738

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[00:43:25] Amy: Dad, we.

739

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[00:43:27] Amy P: There's.

740

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[00:43:27] Amy: IP.

741

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[00:43:27] Amy P: I think there's something in there that's more toxic.

742

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[00:43:30] Amy: Oh, okay.

743

[00:43:31] 00: 43:48.320 --> 00:43:48.650

[00:43:31] Megan Simmons: Got it.

744

[00:43:31] 00: 43:48.650 --> 00:43:53.590

[00:43:31] Amy P: Oh, yeah, no. Something that's just more toxic, and I'm plugged into the wall outlet so.

745

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[00:43:36] Amy: Weird.

746

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[00:43:37] Amy: Let's just

747

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[00:43:39] Amy: Okey Dokey. Well.

748

[00:43:41] 00: 43:58.380 --> 00:44:00.720

[00:43:41] Amy: the spirits are probably going. It's 8 30.

749

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[00:43:44] Amy: Move this fucker along. Yeah, we're only 20 min into the show so we could probably skip ahead. I don't. I just didn't want to skip over anything that you guys like any of your comments or jokes, or whatever.

750

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[00:43:53] Megan Simmons: All our listen. You can skip over our jokes because we'll just make we'll just make more.

751

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[00:43:58] Amy P: No.

752

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[00:44:00] Megan Simmons: I did think it was really funny when you guys both commented on this, so I didn't comment on it. But Steve's tapping the banner.

753

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[00:44:07] Amy P: I will say.

754

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[00:44:07] Megan Simmons: He was.

755

[00:44:07] 00: 44:24.980 --> 00:44:26.070

[00:44:07] Amy P: We did see like.

756

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[00:44:12] Megan Simmons: Oh! Did she freeze again.

757

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[00:44:14] Megan Simmons: Alan!

758

[00:44:14] 00: 44:31.880 --> 00:44:33.029

[00:44:14] Amy: Her eyes are moving.

759

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[00:44:19] Amy: What's going on.

760

[00:44:20] 00: 44:36.300 --> 00:44:36.940

[00:44:20] Amy: Amy?

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[00:44:20] Amy P: I started talking a while ago, but then Megan cut me off so.

762

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[00:44:23] Megan Simmons: Oh!

763

[00:44:23] 00: 44:40.660 --> 00:44:42.119

[00:44:23] Amy: Oh, we couldn't hear you, you I didn't.

764

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[00:44:25] Megan Simmons: Hear you. So yeah.

765

[00:44:25] 00: 44:43.210 --> 00:44:46.930

[00:44:26] Amy: When Megan started talking. We didn't. You were not talking to us. Yeah.

766

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[00:44:31] Amy: Oh.

767

[00:44:31] 00: 44:48.610 --> 00:44:50.060

[00:44:31] Amy P: Was, but you couldn't hear me.

768

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[00:44:33] Amy: No, I and you were frozen, so I your mouth. Your face wasn't moving, or anything.

769

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[00:44:38] Amy P: I there's nothing I can do.

770

[00:44:40] 00: 44:57.310 --> 00:44:58.200

[00:44:40] Amy: No, I know

771

[00:44:40] 00: 44:58.370 --> 00:44:59.429

[00:44:41] Amy: I know it's fine.

772

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[00:44:43] Amy: All right. So

773

[00:44:43] 00: 45:01.250 --> 00:45:05.619

[00:44:44] Amy: what? What should we go back? What were you? What were you talking about? Ap.

774

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[00:44:50] Amy P: I'm like on a 10 second delay with you guys.

775

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[00:44:53] Amy: Oh, yeah.

776

[00:44:53] 00: 45:11.820 --> 00:45:12.780

[00:44:54] Amy: that's weird.

777

[00:44:55] 00: 45:12.970 --> 00:45:16.889

[00:44:55] Megan Simmons: That is weird. So what what did you want to say, or what were you saying.

778

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[00:45:02] Amy P: Just with the number of people that died that between the 20 and 40, it's like reform schools or asylums, like.

779

[00:45:08] 00: 45:25.920 --> 00:45:31.239

[00:45:08] Amy P: yeah, they don't have a current number or correct number, because half of those people never were there.

780

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[00:45:14] Megan Simmons: Yeah, that makes sense. I didn't even think about that. And then I read your comment. And I was like, Oh, yeah.

781

[00:45:18] 00: 45:36.980 --> 00:45:38.569

[00:45:20] Megan Simmons: because, yeah, they didn't want to.

782

[00:45:21] 00: 45:39.640 --> 00:45:41.589

[00:45:22] Amy P: Or they just check themselves out.

783

[00:45:25] 00: 45:42.330 --> 00:45:44.189

[00:45:25] Amy: Yeah, or disappeared.

784

[00:45:27] 00: 45:44.650 --> 00:45:48.399

[00:45:27] Megan Simmons: Or they don't want to admit their sister got admitted. Yeah, or whatever.

785

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[00:45:32] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

786

[00:45:32] 00: 45:51.110 --> 00:45:52.040

[00:45:34] Megan Simmons: okay.

787

[00:45:35] 00: 45:53.530 --> 00:45:57.220

[00:45:36] Amy: Megan, what were you talking about when you said we both talked about something.

788

[00:45:40] 00: 45:57.610 --> 00:46:01.120

[00:45:40] Megan Simmons: The janky banister where he's like tapping it, and it kind of jiggles.

789

[00:45:43] 00: 46:01.120 --> 00:46:01.770

[00:45:44] Amy: Yeah.

790

[00:45:44] 00: 46:01.980 --> 00:46:08.409

[00:45:44] Megan Simmons: And I was like, Yeah, that's I. Just. I didn't comment on it, but I was like, cause you see him. He's like, even makes kind of a face where he's like.

791

[00:45:51] 00: 46:08.410 --> 00:46:11.410

[00:45:51] Amy: Yeah, I did a screenshot of that. Yeah, it was pretty good.

792

[00:45:54] 00: 46:12.120 --> 00:46:17.289

[00:45:55] Amy: So we don't have to go into all the different things about starvation, because it's really hideous.

793

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[00:46:00] Megan Simmons: Bad.

794

[00:46:00] 00: 46:17.750 --> 00:46:25.110

[00:46:00] Amy: I don't think we need to do that, but we should mention because it comes up in the Reveal. There were 2 famous patients, Claire and Dora Williamson.

795

[00:46:07] 00: 46:25.190 --> 00:46:31.049

[00:46:08] Amy: They were spinsters from England that had a lot of money, and they came there for the treatments, and one of them was starved to death.

 one of them.

798

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[00:46:14] Amy: or died in the other one

799

[00:46:16] 00: 46:35.090 --> 00:46:36.210

[00:46:16] Amy: was

 she was rescued, or whatever.

802

[00:46:18] 00: 46:41.140 --> 00:46:43.199

[00:46:18] Megan Simmons: Yeah, she was safe. She yeah.

803

[00:46:20] 00: 46:43.360 --> 00:46:46.950

[00:46:20] Megan Simmons: she it was really bad. So they show a picture of what.

804

[00:46:23] 00: 46:46.950 --> 00:46:47.580

[00:46:24] Amy: Yeah.

805

[00:46:24] 00: 46:47.580 --> 00:46:48.760

[00:46:24] Megan Simmons: She looks like

806

[00:46:25] 00: 46:48.850 --> 00:46:50.979

[00:46:26] Megan Simmons: when so it was Claire.

807

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[00:46:30] Megan Simmons: Refeeding syndrome is important.

808

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[00:46:32] Megan Simmons: is what Amy's Ap. Said. She said. She's going to be on mute.

809

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[00:46:36] Amy: Oh.

810

[00:46:36] 00: 47:00.160 --> 00:47:00.880

[00:46:37] Amy: okay.

811

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[00:46:38] Amy P: Can you hear me right now.

812

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[00:46:39] Megan Simmons: Yes.

813

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[00:46:41] Amy P: Okay. So I just really want to jump in. I know we didn't want to talk a lot of

814

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[00:46:46] Amy P: about starvation, but refeeding syndrome

815

[00:46:48] 00: 47:12.900 --> 00:47:18.310

[00:46:50] Amy P: is when you feed people too quickly back from

816

[00:46:55] 00: 47:18.610 --> 00:47:31.689

[00:46:55] Amy P: the brink of starvation. And that is literally why, if you've ever watched band of brothers, they are told when they get to concentration camps they are told not to feed the survivors, because they will literally kill themselves by eating too quickly.

817

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[00:47:09] Megan Simmons: Really.

818

[00:47:10] 00: 47:34.880 --> 00:47:47.659

[00:47:12] Amy P: Yes. So that's where, when we get to seeing how devastated some of these people have been is they have to. They can't. They can't even feed a milk or anything dairy product, because

819

[00:47:24] 00: 47:47.690 --> 00:47:54.639

[00:47:24] Amy P: there it. There's a malabsorption in that. And so their bodies can't handle it. And it can. It can basically kill them.

820

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[00:47:32] Amy P: So yeah.

821

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[00:47:34] Megan Simmons: How.

822

[00:47:35] 00: 47:58.750 --> 00:48:02.139

[00:47:35] Amy P: Because your body is so broken down that it was eating itself.

823

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[00:47:40] Megan Simmons: Yeah, they did mention that.

824

[00:47:42] 00: 48:06.690 --> 00:48:08.040

[00:47:43] Amy: And my.

825

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[00:47:45] Amy P: And so it can't.

826

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[00:47:47] Amy P: can't comprehend, or can't manage.

827

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[00:47:53] Megan Simmons: No idea.

828

[00:47:53] 00: 48:17.250 --> 00:48:21.520

[00:47:54] Amy: That makes sense, because when a friend of mine.

829

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[00:47:59] Amy: I'm not gonna say her name

830

[00:48:00] 00: 48:23.906 --> 00:48:31.813

[00:48:01] Amy: when she had surgery to have, like most of her stomach removed to lose weight. Yeah, she developed a

831

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[00:48:10] Amy: not allergy, but

832

[00:48:11] 00: 48:34.280 --> 00:48:38.248

[00:48:11] Amy: intolerance to anything dairy. She couldn't have dairy anymore.

833

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[00:48:15] Megan Simmons: So sad.

834

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[00:48:16] Amy: You still can't.

835

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[00:48:18] Megan Simmons: Even cheese.

836

[00:48:19] 00: 48:43.090 --> 00:48:43.750

[00:48:20] Amy: Nothing.

837

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[00:48:21] Megan Simmons: Damn!

838

[00:48:22] 00: 48:45.200 --> 00:48:47.170

[00:48:22] Amy: I know I can't imagine that'd be awful.

839

[00:48:24] 00: 48:47.170 --> 00:48:50.099

[00:48:24] Megan Simmons: Oh, my God! I literally will eat just like a handful of cheese.

840

[00:48:27] 00: 48:50.100 --> 00:48:51.300

[00:48:27] Amy: I know me too.

841

[00:48:28] 00: 48:51.300 --> 00:48:52.280

[00:48:28] Megan Simmons: That'd be terrible.

842

[00:48:29] 00: 48:52.280 --> 00:48:55.800

[00:48:29] Amy: So yeah. When this one died she weighed 38 pounds.

843

[00:48:32] 00: 48:55.800 --> 00:48:58.179

[00:48:32] Megan Simmons: No, when she was rescued she weighed 38 pounds.

844

[00:48:35] 00: 48:58.180 --> 00:49:00.500

[00:48:35] Amy: Oh, she's the one that lived. Dora. Yes, okay.

845

[00:48:37] 00: 49:00.500 --> 00:49:02.040

[00:48:37] Megan Simmons: So. Claire is the one who.

846

[00:48:39] 00: 49:02.040 --> 00:49:03.299

[00:48:39] Amy: Claire's, the one that died.

847

[00:48:40] 00: 49:03.300 --> 00:49:05.379

[00:48:40] Megan Simmons: Dora lived. So

848

[00:48:42] 00: 49:05.510 --> 00:49:07.819

[00:48:42] Megan Simmons: Dr. Hazzard.

849

[00:48:44] 00: 49:07.820 --> 00:49:09.240

[00:48:44] Amy: The picture of the

850

[00:48:46] 00: 49:09.450 --> 00:49:11.330

[00:48:46] Amy: regular, and then Skinny.

851

[00:48:48] 00: 49:11.590 --> 00:49:12.750

[00:48:48] Amy: which one was. That

852

[00:48:50] 00: 49:12.770 --> 00:49:14.769

[00:48:50] Amy: was that Adora or Claire? Oh, okay.

853

[00:48:51] 00: 49:14.770 --> 00:49:15.180

[00:48:51] Megan Simmons: Store.

854

[00:48:51] 00: 49:15.180 --> 00:49:16.329

[00:48:51] Amy: Was clear. Okay.

855

[00:48:53] 00: 49:16.330 --> 00:49:22.400

[00:48:53] Megan Simmons: Cause Claire died, and Dr. Let hazard, why do I keep wanting to say, Lazard? I don't know.

856

[00:48:59] 00: 49:22.682 --> 00:49:27.770

[00:49:00] Amy: Cause it's spelled HAZZ a RD. So you would think maybe it was hazard.

857

[00:49:04] 00: 49:27.770 --> 00:49:29.920

[00:49:04] Megan Simmons: Yeah. Dr. Hayle.

858

[00:49:07] 00: 49:29.920 --> 00:49:30.310

[00:49:07] Amy: Has.

859

[00:49:07] 00: 49:30.310 --> 00:49:32.089

[00:49:07] Amy P: Lazard was a green bay packer.

860

[00:49:09] 00: 49:32.550 --> 00:49:34.821

[00:49:09] Megan Simmons: That's why go packers.

861

[00:49:11] 00: 49:35.470 --> 00:49:39.859

[00:49:12] Megan Simmons: Claire! So Dr. Hazard did her own autopsies, which even helped

862

[00:49:17] 00: 49:40.080 --> 00:49:44.940

[00:49:17] Megan Simmons: cover up what she was doing, because she marked on that Claire had died of cirrhosis of the liver.

863

[00:49:21] 00: 49:44.940 --> 00:49:45.560

[00:49:22] Amy: Yeah.

864

[00:49:22] 00: 49:46.070 --> 00:49:52.729

[00:49:23] Amy: And as it turns out, I looked at some extra little digging. And Dr. Lazard was not a doctor. She just called.

865

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[00:49:29] Megan Simmons: Hazard.

866

[00:49:30] 00: 49:53.630 --> 00:49:55.520

[00:49:30] Amy: Hazard, hazard, hazard.

867

[00:49:32] 00: 49:55.520 --> 00:49:55.960

[00:49:32] Megan Simmons: Doing.

868

[00:49:33] 00: 49:55.960 --> 00:49:56.630

[00:49:33] Amy: Now I'm doing it.

869

[00:49:33] 00: 49:56.630 --> 00:49:59.530

[00:49:33] Megan Simmons: And rubbing off on you. Yeah, of course she wasn't a doctor.

870

[00:49:36] 00: 49:59.530 --> 00:49:59.890

[00:49:36] Amy: Yes.

871

[00:49:36] 00: 49:59.890 --> 00:50:04.109

[00:49:37] Megan Simmons: You could just put a sign on your door and say, I'm a doctor, and they'd be like, Oh, my God! Hey, doctor!

872

[00:49:41] 00: 50:04.110 --> 00:50:05.860

[00:49:41] Amy: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

873

[00:49:42] 00: 50:06.370 --> 00:50:07.070

[00:49:43] Amy: yeah.

874

[00:49:44] 00: 50:07.620 --> 00:50:13.479

[00:49:44] Amy: Okay, so what else we go? Oh, I just noted the stair. We were talking about the staircases. We got all

875

[00:49:51] 00: 50:13.670 --> 00:50:20.109

[00:49:51] Amy: into that, and there's talking about the woman that fell downstairs. They showed one staircase, and then they showed

876

[00:49:57] 00: 50:20.320 --> 00:50:24.080

[00:49:57] Amy: a different staircase, like one of them was looked like a back staircase.

877

[00:50:00] 00: 50:24.080 --> 00:50:24.530

[00:50:01] Megan Simmons: Yes.

878

[00:50:01] 00: 50:24.530 --> 00:50:28.150

[00:50:01] Amy: And then the other one was like the open staircase where that

879

[00:50:05] 00: 50:28.450 --> 00:50:32.819

[00:50:05] Amy: Goofy Bannister was I don't know which staircase they fell down.

880

[00:50:09] 00: 50:33.130 --> 00:50:40.589

[00:50:10] Megan Simmons: I would assume the one with the goofy banister, because in my, my, in my, I think the the one that was

881

[00:50:17] 00: 50:40.830 --> 00:50:51.649

[00:50:18] Megan Simmons: that looks like the back that's in the new house, and the goofy banister is the old house, so I would assume the old house is the one that they fell down. They were showing a lot of staircases in this one.

882

[00:50:28] 00: 50:51.650 --> 00:50:57.949

[00:50:28] Amy: Were, and and if they took part of the banister from the old house and put it in the new house, then there is a banister in the new house that has it.

883

[00:50:35] 00: 50:58.380 --> 00:50:59.811

[00:50:35] Amy: Or I mean a staircase in the bend.

884

[00:50:36] 00: 51:00.090 --> 00:51:04.280

[00:50:37] Amy: a staircase in a new house that has that banister. Jesus Christ.

885

[00:50:43] 00: 51:05.940 --> 00:51:07.140

[00:50:43] Amy: Yeah, I think.

886

[00:50:43] 00: 51:07.140 --> 00:51:12.939

[00:50:44] Amy P: That banister is at the bottom of the the weird looking enclosed hallway stairs.

887

[00:50:50] 00: 51:13.820 --> 00:51:17.060

[00:50:51] Amy: So it's enclosed in the beginning part or the top, and then.

888

[00:50:54] 00: 51:17.060 --> 00:51:18.080

[00:50:54] Amy P: Which is why?

889

[00:50:54] 00: 51:18.320 --> 00:51:21.870

[00:50:55] Amy P: Yeah? Because it comes down and goes around a corner.

890

[00:50:59] 00: 51:21.870 --> 00:51:22.810

[00:50:59] Amy: And the.

891

[00:51:00] 00: 51:22.810 --> 00:51:24.770

[00:51:00] Amy P: Bannister is down around that corner.

892

[00:51:01] 00: 51:24.770 --> 00:51:25.500

[00:51:01] Amy: Okay.

893

[00:51:02] 00: 51:25.800 --> 00:51:29.000

[00:51:02] Amy P: That's why it's only like 4 steps worth of Bannister.

894

[00:51:05] 00: 51:29.000 --> 00:51:30.900

[00:51:06] Amy: Okay, okay, that makes sense.

895

[00:51:07] 00: 51:30.900 --> 00:51:32.750

[00:51:08] Megan Simmons: So much sense.

896

[00:51:09] 00: 51:32.750 --> 00:51:33.390

[00:51:09] Amy: Okay.

897

[00:51:10] 00: 51:33.390 --> 00:51:39.259

[00:51:10] Megan Simmons: God. IP, this is why we have you cause you're like, actually, you're an idiot. And this is why you never.

898

[00:51:16] 00: 51:39.260 --> 00:51:40.889

[00:51:17] Amy P: No, you never say.

899

[00:51:18] 00: 51:40.890 --> 00:51:42.050

[00:51:18] Amy: That no.

900

[00:51:19] 00: 51:42.640 --> 00:51:49.039

[00:51:19] Amy P: No, I think my Internet keeps cutting out because we've had several times in the last few days where we just get a flash of

901

[00:51:26] 00: 51:49.540 --> 00:51:50.760

[00:51:26] Amy P: power goes out.

902

[00:51:27] 00: 51:50.760 --> 00:51:52.180

[00:51:27] Amy: Oh, really, I don't know.

903

[00:51:29] 00: 51:52.180 --> 00:51:53.510

[00:51:29] Amy P: Ash, yeah.

904

[00:51:31] 00: 51:53.970 --> 00:51:59.010

[00:51:31] Amy P: and then comes back on on. And it's done that like I don't know 5 or 6 times.

905

[00:51:35] 00: 51:59.010 --> 00:51:59.819

[00:51:36] Amy: Yeah, what's that's what.

906

[00:51:36] 00: 51:59.820 --> 00:52:00.539

[00:51:37] Megan Simmons: No, it seems like.

907

[00:51:37] 00: 52:00.540 --> 00:52:04.779

[00:51:37] Amy: Is happening, Brownout. It's not quite a blackout, because it just goes off for a second, comes back.

908

[00:51:43] 00: 52:04.780 --> 00:52:06.959

[00:51:43] Megan Simmons: Oh, I have not. You guys.

909

[00:51:43] 00: 52:06.960 --> 00:52:07.530

[00:51:44] Amy P: And I know.

910

[00:51:44] 00: 52:07.530 --> 00:52:08.890

[00:51:44] Amy: You're learning a lot today.

911

[00:51:46] 00: 52:09.100 --> 00:52:10.110

[00:51:46] Amy: ours.

912

[00:51:49] 00: 52:11.990 --> 00:52:12.640

[00:51:49] Megan Simmons: She!

913

[00:51:49] 00: 52:12.640 --> 00:52:16.679

[00:51:49] Amy P: Ours went out at 1235 last night, because I have an overhead.

914

[00:51:53] 00: 52:17.300 --> 00:52:20.050

[00:51:54] Amy P: I have an overhead fan, and

915

[00:51:57] 00: 52:20.160 --> 00:52:25.259

[00:51:57] Amy P: if the light flashes out, it light turns on basically, if the power comes back off.

916

[00:52:02] 00: 52:25.260 --> 00:52:25.720

[00:52:02] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

917

[00:52:02] 00: 52:25.720 --> 00:52:26.290

[00:52:02] Amy: Yeah.

918

[00:52:03] 00: 52:27.683 --> 00:52:28.310

[00:52:04] Amy P: Wakes me.

919

[00:52:05] 00: 52:29.190 --> 00:52:30.150

[00:52:06] Amy P: Yeah.

920

[00:52:07] 00: 52:30.550 --> 00:52:32.229

[00:52:07] Amy P: yeah, that must be terrible.

921

[00:52:09] 00: 52:32.400 --> 00:52:33.859

[00:52:09] Amy: That must be what's happening.

922

[00:52:10] 00: 52:34.140 --> 00:52:36.949

[00:52:11] Amy: Okay? So we can. Let's just try and wrap this up. Then.

923

[00:52:14] 00: 52:36.950 --> 00:52:37.740

[00:52:14] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

924

[00:52:14] 00: 52:38.325 --> 00:52:40.080

[00:52:15] Amy: Okay, so and.

925

[00:52:17] 00: 52:40.080 --> 00:52:43.689

[00:52:17] Megan Simmons: Skip over the forensic pathologist, because all he does is talk about

926

[00:52:20] 00: 52:43.870 --> 00:52:47.000

[00:52:21] Megan Simmons: like what happens when you get starved. I will say

927

[00:52:24] 00: 52:47.411 --> 00:52:52.500

[00:52:25] Megan Simmons: one thing he talked about was that gets brought up in the reveal

928

[00:52:29] 00: 52:53.002 --> 00:53:09.469

[00:52:30] Megan Simmons: is when you you in the end you actually will asphyxiate because the muscles in your throat. Start stop working, and so you can't breathe. And so that comes up in the Reveal because Amy says she feels like she's drowning.

929

[00:52:47] 00: 53:09.970 --> 00:53:17.769

[00:52:47] Megan Simmons: But then she may. She's like she she does a voice over, and she says I've never felt anything like it. It's almost like drowning, but without the water.

930

[00:52:55] 00: 53:18.830 --> 00:53:21.919

[00:52:55] Megan Simmons: But other than that, we won't talk about it, cause it's real gruesome.

931

[00:52:59] 00: 53:21.920 --> 00:53:23.600

[00:52:59] Amy: Is real gruesome. Yeah.

932

[00:53:01] 00: 53:24.910 --> 00:53:26.410

[00:53:02] Amy: Alright. So.

933

[00:53:03] 00: 53:27.623 --> 00:53:33.986

[00:53:05] Amy: What? How much we get? Legal expert? Okay, the legal expert. This is where we find out that

934

[00:53:11] 00: 53:34.500 --> 00:53:36.510

[00:53:12] Amy: she was.

935

[00:53:14] 00: 53:37.388 --> 00:53:39.180

[00:53:14] Amy: She died of her own treatment.

936

[00:53:17] 00: 53:39.480 --> 00:53:39.970

[00:53:17] Amy: Yeah.

937

[00:53:17] 00: 53:40.460 --> 00:53:41.260

[00:53:17] Megan Simmons: Irony.

938

[00:53:18] 00: 53:41.260 --> 00:53:41.860

[00:53:20] Amy: Yeah.

939

[00:53:20] 00: 53:42.000 --> 00:53:45.940

[00:53:20] Amy: And so of starvation. And

940

[00:53:23] 00: 53:46.570 --> 00:53:50.080

[00:53:24] Amy: let's see, where's the part where it says that nothing happened to her?

941

[00:53:26] 00: 53:50.409 --> 00:54:02.880

[00:53:27] Amy: A jury convicted her of second degree murder, and the reason they couldn't find her guilty of 1st degree murder is that they did not find that it was premeditated, and we were all like what the fuck she lured people there to kill them. Of course it was premeditated.

942

[00:53:40] 00: 54:02.880 --> 00:54:07.789

[00:53:40] Megan Simmons: She literally starved them. It's almost like what is that called?

943

[00:53:44] 00: 54:07.840 --> 00:54:09.509

[00:53:45] Megan Simmons: There's a term for it when.

944

[00:53:46] 00: 54:09.510 --> 00:54:10.639

[00:53:47] Amy P: It's Munchausen.

945

[00:53:47] 00: 54:10.640 --> 00:54:11.920

[00:53:47] Megan Simmons: No! No! Well.

946

[00:53:49] 00: 54:12.600 --> 00:54:22.550

[00:53:49] Amy P: But she was considered a doctor. So even if she wasn't actually a doctor, she was considered like she was trying to help them, and they just passed away in her care. Kind of thing.

947

[00:54:00] 00: 54:24.300 --> 00:54:25.499

[00:54:01] Megan Simmons: It's it called when you make.

948

[00:54:02] 00: 54:25.500 --> 00:54:26.350

[00:54:02] Amy P: You know sick.

949

[00:54:03] 00: 54:26.650 --> 00:54:27.919

[00:54:03] Megan Simmons: Oh, I'm sorry!

950

[00:54:04] 00: 54:28.190 --> 00:54:29.150

[00:54:05] Amy P: Arizona

951

[00:54:05] 00: 54:29.540 --> 00:54:30.720

[00:54:06] Amy P: hindsight.

952

[00:54:07] 00: 54:31.850 --> 00:54:32.430

[00:54:08] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

953

[00:54:09] 00: 54:33.970 --> 00:54:35.749

[00:54:11] Amy: Yeah, when you make people sick, that is mental health.

954

[00:54:12] 00: 54:35.750 --> 00:54:38.169

[00:54:12] Amy P: Yeah. So we had that that 100 years. Yep.

955

[00:54:15] 00: 54:38.460 --> 00:54:42.449

[00:54:15] Megan Simmons: No, but there's something like when doctors make people sick and then heal them.

956

[00:54:19] 00: 54:42.980 --> 00:54:43.960

[00:54:20] Amy: Oh!

957

[00:54:20] 00: 54:44.120 --> 00:54:45.140

[00:54:21] Amy: Oh!

958

[00:54:22] 00: 54:45.140 --> 00:54:45.930

[00:54:22] Megan Simmons: It's like

959

[00:54:23] 00: 54:46.210 --> 00:54:50.290

[00:54:23] Megan Simmons: like a superhero complex or something, or a hero complex, that's all.

960

[00:54:27] 00: 54:50.290 --> 00:54:50.720

[00:54:27] Amy: But it's.

961

[00:54:27] 00: 54:50.720 --> 00:54:53.369

[00:54:27] Megan Simmons: Seems like here is that she's making them sick.

962

[00:54:30] 00: 54:53.370 --> 00:54:54.290

[00:54:30] Amy P: So complex.

963

[00:54:31] 00: 54:54.290 --> 00:54:57.389

[00:54:31] Megan Simmons: Yes! Oh, my screen just flashed. Whoa!

964

[00:54:35] 00: 54:57.390 --> 00:54:58.580

[00:54:35] Amy: What is going on.

965

[00:54:35] 00: 54:58.660 --> 00:54:59.720

[00:54:35] Megan Simmons: Alan.

966

[00:54:36] 00: 54:59.950 --> 00:55:01.240

[00:54:37] Amy: I know mine's fine.

967

[00:54:39] 00: 55:03.190 --> 00:55:04.550

[00:54:40] Megan Simmons: My screen just jiggled.

968

[00:54:41] 00: 55:05.300 --> 00:55:06.800

[00:54:42] Megan Simmons: It's never done.

969

[00:54:43] 00: 55:07.550 --> 00:55:10.640

[00:54:44] Megan Simmons: My screen has never done anything when we've recorded ever.

970

[00:54:47] 00: 55:10.640 --> 00:55:14.220

[00:54:47] Amy: That's bizarre. I even lit incense and did the whole.

971

[00:54:51] 00: 55:14.220 --> 00:55:14.830

[00:54:51] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

972

[00:54:52] 00: 55:15.590 --> 00:55:16.779

[00:54:52] Megan Simmons: so anyways, yes.

973

[00:54:53] 00: 55:16.780 --> 00:55:17.610

[00:54:53] Amy: Anyway.

974

[00:54:54] 00: 55:17.610 --> 00:55:24.570

[00:54:54] Megan Simmons: That's a good point. Ap, like, yeah, she's a doctor. So people are like, Oh, well, they she just happened to die in her care. Yeah.

975

[00:55:02] 00: 55:25.720 --> 00:55:31.139

[00:55:02] Amy: So then Amy has a sketch done. She's gonna she says I'm gonna have the sketch done of the lady that I met.

976

[00:55:08] 00: 55:31.470 --> 00:55:37.710

[00:55:08] Amy: which we if this is still up in the air, who that is? Yeah. So now we're on to segment. 3. The reveal and.

977

[00:55:14] 00: 55:37.710 --> 00:55:38.620

[00:55:14] Megan Simmons: You.

978

[00:55:15] 00: 55:39.520 --> 00:55:44.370

[00:55:16] Amy: I did. We all thought it was interesting that Mom wasn't there. It was just Logan and Dad.

979

[00:55:21] 00: 55:45.050 --> 00:55:46.510

[00:55:22] Amy: And that.

980

[00:55:23] 00: 55:47.945 --> 00:55:51.140

[00:55:25] Amy: Yeah, I had noted that Logan is terrified that.

981

[00:55:28] 00: 55:51.140 --> 00:55:51.480

[00:55:28] Megan Simmons: Yes.

982

[00:55:28] 00: 55:51.480 --> 00:55:54.149

[00:55:28] Amy: To learn. You can see they keep showing him, and he's just like

983

[00:55:31] 00: 55:54.580 --> 00:55:57.550

[00:55:31] Amy: like his lip look like it's shaking.

984

[00:55:34] 00: 55:57.550 --> 00:56:01.149

[00:55:34] Megan Simmons: And he kept ring. Somebody noted this. I think it might have been ap

985

[00:55:37] 00: 56:01.370 --> 00:56:09.520

[00:55:38] Megan Simmons: noted in the comments he kept ringing his hands, and his hands were very like tight together. Yeah, cause he knows he done fucked up.

986

[00:55:46] 00: 56:10.920 --> 00:56:16.579

[00:55:48] Amy: Yeah, he does. Yeah. And this is where they do the flashback to Amy. And she says that they should tear this fucker down.

987

[00:55:54] 00: 56:18.040 --> 00:56:19.080

[00:55:55] Amy: And

988

[00:55:56] 00: 56:19.270 --> 00:56:26.820

[00:55:56] Amy: Logan explains what's going on? Yeah, they did do the reveal in the old house, which was an interesting choice.

989

[00:56:03] 00: 56:27.450 --> 00:56:28.140

[00:56:03] Amy: very.

990

[00:56:04] 00: 56:28.140 --> 00:56:30.309

[00:56:05] Megan Simmons: Yeah, I thought, too, because I could see

991

[00:56:07] 00: 56:32.140 --> 00:56:34.390

[00:56:09] Megan Simmons: yeah, I don't know why they did it in the old house.

992

[00:56:11] 00: 56:34.390 --> 00:56:34.960

[00:56:11] Amy: Yeah.

993

[00:56:12] 00: 56:36.010 --> 00:56:36.670

[00:56:13] Amy: I.

994

[00:56:13] 00: 56:36.670 --> 00:56:37.460

[00:56:13] Megan Simmons: Ask me so.

995

[00:56:14] 00: 56:37.460 --> 00:56:40.649

[00:56:14] Amy: Ap noted that Amy looks gorgeous in the reveal. Her hair is up.

996

[00:56:17] 00: 56:40.650 --> 00:56:41.440

[00:56:17] Megan Simmons: She!

997

[00:56:18] 00: 56:41.440 --> 00:56:42.512

[00:56:18] Amy: Brightness, earrings. Yes.

998

[00:56:19] 00: 56:42.870 --> 00:56:48.829

[00:56:20] Megan Simmons: It is. Yes, it is very. It's like almost a very sophisticated, like French, twisty thing.

999

[00:56:26] 00: 56:49.150 --> 00:56:49.730

[00:56:26] Amy: Yeah.

1000

[00:56:26] 00: 56:50.320 --> 00:56:50.940

[00:56:27] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

1001

[00:56:27] 00: 56:50.940 --> 00:56:53.884

[00:56:28] Amy: Okay, we don't have to go too much in the reveal. But

1002

[00:56:31] 00: 56:54.260 --> 00:56:57.209

[00:56:31] Amy: we are just. We're talking about how

1003

[00:56:34] 00: 56:58.120 --> 00:56:58.779

[00:56:34] Amy: I

1004

[00:56:35] 00: 56:58.880 --> 00:57:01.569

[00:56:36] Amy: who this person could be that Amy saw

1005

[00:56:39] 00: 57:03.330 --> 00:57:12.620

[00:56:40] Amy: They do show us pictures of the sisters, and Dora. Dora is one of the sisters. They show us the pictures like we were talking about before before

1006

[00:56:50] 00: 57:13.940 --> 00:57:15.699

[00:56:51] Amy: before she went into the

1007

[00:56:52] 00: 57:15.810 --> 00:57:18.060

[00:56:53] Amy: spa, or whatever the fuck they call it.

1008

[00:56:55] 00: 57:18.260 --> 00:57:21.970

[00:56:55] Amy: and and after, when she was 38 pounds

1009

[00:57:00] 00: 57:23.040 --> 00:57:25.529

[00:57:00] Megan Simmons: She was 130 when she went in.

1010

[00:57:02] 00: 57:25.530 --> 00:57:26.140

[00:57:02] Amy: Yeah.

1011

[00:57:03] 00: 57:26.680 --> 00:57:28.480

[00:57:03] Megan Simmons: So she lost a hundred pounds.

1012

[00:57:05] 00: 57:28.480 --> 00:57:29.860

[00:57:05] Amy: Just 100 pounds. Yeah, that's.

1013

[00:57:06] 00: 57:29.860 --> 00:57:33.739

[00:57:07] Megan Simmons: Over a hundred pounds. Yeah, no, almost a hundred. You guys, math is hard.

1014

[00:57:13] 00: 57:36.130 --> 00:57:46.559

[00:57:13] Amy: There was 1 point where they were talking about. Steve was talking about how she called herself a doctor, and Blah Blah and Amy goes. 1015

[00:57:20] Amy Allan: She called herself a doctor. She was a freaking psycho murderer, is what she was.

[00:57:27] 00: 57:47.540 --> 00:57:48.340

[00:57:27] Megan Simmons: Yes.

1016

[00:57:28] 00: 57:48.620 --> 00:57:49.520

[00:57:28] Amy: Yes, she was.

1017

[00:57:29] 00: 57:49.720 --> 00:57:56.870

[00:57:29] Amy: Then we see the sketch, which just looks like a regular you know Victorian sort of lady

1018

[00:57:36] 00: 57:57.447 --> 00:58:01.579

[00:57:37] Amy: and Amy says that she sketched the person who fell down the stairs.

1019

[00:57:42] 00: 58:02.590 --> 00:58:08.310

[00:57:42] Amy: but which which Steve says sounds like the sister, but he thinks the sketch looks like

1020

[00:57:48] 00: 58:08.340 --> 00:58:15.509

[00:57:48] Amy: Dr. Hazard, and they show the 2. I think it does look like doctor. I don't think it really looks like any of them.

1021

[00:57:55] 00: 58:15.660 --> 00:58:18.267

[00:57:55] Amy: but I think it looks more like

1022

[00:57:58] 00: 58:18.640 --> 00:58:19.360

[00:57:58] Megan Simmons: Dr. Hazard.

1023

[00:57:59] 00: 58:19.360 --> 00:58:20.690

[00:57:59] Amy: Hazard, but

1024

[00:58:00] 00: 58:21.020 --> 00:58:21.940

[00:58:01] Amy: don't know that

1025

[00:58:01] 00: 58:22.160 --> 00:58:23.300

[00:58:02] Amy: the nose.

1026

[00:58:04] 00: 58:23.800 --> 00:58:25.430

[00:58:04] Amy: the the mouth, is right.

1027

[00:58:05] 00: 58:25.670 --> 00:58:26.250

[00:58:05] Megan Simmons: Also.

1028

[00:58:06] 00: 58:26.250 --> 00:58:27.340

[00:58:06] Amy: I speak.

1029

[00:58:07] 00: 58:27.560 --> 00:58:29.170

[00:58:07] Megan Simmons: I just want to note that

1030

[00:58:09] 00: 58:29.290 --> 00:58:37.770

[00:58:09] Megan Simmons: in the picture they, the picture that they show had 3 people in it. Yeah. And I did a search, and it's

1031

[00:58:17] 00: 58:37.790 --> 00:58:40.779

[00:58:18] Megan Simmons: the the 2 sisters and Dr. Hazard.

1032

[00:58:20] 00: 58:40.780 --> 00:58:42.369

[00:58:20] Amy: Oh, it is Dr. Hazard! Oh.

1033

[00:58:22] 00: 58:42.370 --> 00:58:44.940

[00:58:22] Megan Simmons: So I believe Dr. Hazard is in the middle.

1034

[00:58:24] 00: 58:45.060 --> 00:58:47.369

[00:58:25] Megan Simmons: and the 2 sisters are flanking her.

1035

[00:58:27] 00: 58:47.370 --> 00:58:51.450

[00:58:27] Amy: Yeah. My note was, here's a picture of 3 people. We aren't going to tell you who the 3rd person is.

1036

[00:58:31] 00: 58:51.660 --> 00:58:52.369

[00:58:31] Megan Simmons: Yeah, cause they never.

1037

[00:58:32] 00: 58:52.370 --> 00:58:53.120

[00:58:32] Amy: And say that.

1038

[00:58:33] 00: 58:53.120 --> 00:59:01.809

[00:58:33] Megan Simmons: No, it's when you do. A search for Claire and Dora Williamson. This picture pops up, and it's Dr. Hazard.

1039

[00:58:41] 00: 59:01.810 --> 00:59:05.679

[00:58:42] Amy: But I didn't see that it said it was her. I must have found a different page than you did.

1040

[00:58:45] 00: 59:05.680 --> 00:59:07.360

[00:58:45] Megan Simmons: It's the cover of a book.

1041

[00:58:47] 00: 59:07.730 --> 00:59:09.060

[00:58:47] Amy: Okay. Okay.

1042

[00:58:49] 00: 59:09.500 --> 00:59:10.170

[00:58:49] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

1043

[00:58:50] 00: 59:10.170 --> 00:59:10.899

[00:58:50] Amy: Okay, cool.

1044

[00:58:50] 00: 59:11.630 --> 00:59:12.370

[00:58:51] Amy: All right.

1045

[00:58:52] 00: 59:13.348 --> 00:59:16.279

[00:58:53] Amy: So then, yeah, they just well, they

1046

[00:58:56] 00: 59:16.740 --> 00:59:19.468

[00:58:57] Amy: agree or disagree about who that picture is.

1047

[00:58:59] 00: 59:20.690 --> 00:59:22.659

[00:59:01] Amy: Steve tells Amy that

1048

[00:59:02] 00: 59:22.700 --> 00:59:25.300

[00:59:02] Amy: Logan conducted 17 seances

1049

[00:59:04] 00: 59:25.310 --> 00:59:26.135

[00:59:05] Amy: and

1050

[00:59:06] 00: 59:27.240 --> 00:59:34.930

[00:59:07] Amy: and then Amy goes into. You know, you have to understand why you're doing things like this that really puts people in physical pain these these spirits and stuff

1051

[00:59:14] 00: 59:35.210 --> 00:59:41.810

[00:59:15] Amy: which I find interesting, that they would be in physical pain when they don't have physical bodies, but that I don't know that.

1052

[00:59:21] 00: 59:41.810 --> 00:59:43.099

[00:59:21] Megan Simmons: Maybe they're remembering.

1053

[00:59:23] 00: 59:43.100 --> 00:59:44.479

[00:59:23] Amy: Amy when we interview her.

1054

[00:59:24] 00: 59:44.480 --> 00:59:45.170

[00:59:24] Megan Simmons: Yes.

1055

[00:59:25] 00: 59:45.340 --> 00:59:46.290

[00:59:25] Megan Simmons: maybe they're.

1056

[00:59:26] 00: 59:46.290 --> 00:59:46.730

[00:59:26] Amy P: Purgatory.

1057

[00:59:26] 00: 59:46.730 --> 00:59:47.330

[00:59:26] Megan Simmons: During?

1058

[00:59:27] 00: 59:48.000 --> 00:59:49.610

[00:59:27] Megan Simmons: Oh, yeah.

1059

[00:59:29] 00: 59:50.880 --> 00:59:52.620

[00:59:30] Amy P: That's what I think of purgatory.

1060

[00:59:33] 00: 59:53.420 --> 00:59:55.319

[00:59:33] Amy: Yeah, but is that physical pain.

1061

[00:59:35] 00: 59:55.880 --> 00:59:57.720

[00:59:35] Amy P: Could be. We don't know.

1062

[00:59:37] 00: 59:58.020 --> 00:59:58.520

[00:59:38] Amy: Okay.

1063

[00:59:38] 00: 59:58.520 --> 00:59:59.370

[00:59:38] Megan Simmons: Only one way to fight.

1064

[00:59:39] 00: 59:59.370 --> 01:00:00.969

[00:59:39] Amy P: Never been there that I know of.

1065

[00:59:41] 01: 00:03.450 --> 01:00:06.490

[00:59:43] Megan Simmons: I thought it was. Maybe they were remembering their physical.

1066

[00:59:46] 01: 00:06.490 --> 01:00:10.214

[00:59:46] Amy: Yeah, it could be. It could be more of a memory thing or a

1067

[00:59:49] 01: 00:11.400 --> 01:00:12.390

[00:59:51] Amy: I mean, cause a lot of.

1068

[00:59:52] 01: 00:12.390 --> 01:00:12.970

[00:59:52] Amy P: Loop.

1069

[00:59:52] 01: 00:13.620 --> 01:00:15.380

[00:59:53] Amy: So a lot of pain is

1070

[00:59:55] 01: 00:15.570 --> 01:00:29.970

[00:59:55] Amy: a lot of physical pain can be overcome with your brain, you know, like my cousin had really really bad back problems, and she had a little device that they put on her back, and it would. It would stop the pain

1071

[01:00:09] 01: 00:30.160 --> 01:00:41.299

[01:00:10] Amy: signals to the brain, so her brain never knew that she was in pain because it stopped the signals of pain. So I suppose I didn't think about that until just now. But that's yeah. That could be it.

1072

[01:00:21] 01: 00:41.660 --> 01:00:42.260

[01:00:21] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

1073

[01:00:22] 01: 00:42.420 --> 01:00:46.444

[01:00:22] Amy: So let's see blah blah blah blah! She's a murderer.

1074

[01:00:26] 01: 00:48.870 --> 01:00:52.990

[01:00:29] Megan Simmons: Ap says, you only know pain because of the nerve endings in your body.

1075

[01:00:32] 01: 00:55.370 --> 01:00:58.460

[01:00:35] Megan Simmons: and the nerve endings are sending the signal up to your brain.

1076

[01:00:38] 01: 00:58.460 --> 01:01:01.580

[01:00:38] Amy: Your brain. So it is your brain that is feeling the pain, and so.

1077

[01:00:41] 01: 01:01.580 --> 01:01:07.889

[01:00:41] Megan Simmons: I inserted that last part by myself. She didn't tell me that. I knew that.

1078

[01:00:47] 01: 01:08.190 --> 01:01:16.329

[01:00:48] Megan Simmons: Ap says it doesn't actually exist at the site in theory. So it's your brain telling you, yeah, your arm hurts. The pain isn't at your arm.

1079

[01:00:56] 01: 01:16.790 --> 01:01:19.389

[01:00:57] Megan Simmons: Yeah, gosh, you guys, this is our medical podcast.

1080

[01:00:59] 01: 01:19.390 --> 01:01:21.400

[01:00:59] Amy: This is very interesting. I know.

1081

[01:01:01] 01: 01:21.750 --> 01:01:24.450

[01:01:01] Megan Simmons: Learning so much. My diary is going to be filled.

1082

[01:01:04] 01: 01:24.450 --> 01:01:27.110

[01:01:04] Amy: Oh, my gosh! You better start writing pretty soon. We better get up.

1083

[01:01:07] 01: 01:27.110 --> 01:01:27.800

[01:01:07] Megan Simmons: Better. It's.

1084

[01:01:07] 01: 01:27.800 --> 01:01:28.130

[01:01:07] Amy: Right.

1085

[01:01:08] 01: 01:28.130 --> 01:01:30.930

[01:01:08] Megan Simmons: It's 8, 52. It is almost my bedtime.

1086

[01:01:10] 01: 01:30.930 --> 01:01:32.758

[01:01:11] Amy: Oh, my God, I have 8 min.

1087

[01:01:12] 01: 01:33.394 --> 01:01:39.890

[01:01:13] Amy: Okay. Oh, I just want to notice that note that when when Amy finds out that they are taking

1088

[01:01:20] 01: 01:40.482 --> 01:01:44.140

[01:01:20] Amy: stuff from the old house and putting it in the new. She just puts her hand on her head.

1089

[01:01:24] 01: 01:44.500 --> 01:01:45.940

[01:01:24] Megan Simmons: It was very good.

1090

[01:01:26] 01: 01:47.240 --> 01:01:47.969

[01:01:27] Megan Simmons: Yeah.

1091

[01:01:27] 01: 01:47.970 --> 01:01:48.640

[01:01:28] Amy: Like that.

1092

[01:01:29] 01: 01:49.860 --> 01:01:50.550

[01:01:29] Amy: Okay?

1093

[01:01:30] 01: 01:50.580 --> 01:01:51.889

[01:01:30] Amy: And then

1094

[01:01:31] 01: 01:52.304 --> 01:01:56.349

[01:01:32] Amy: so let's just go down. Yeah. He says he's gonna

1095

[01:01:36] 01: 01:56.400 --> 01:01:57.490

[01:01:36] Amy: she tells him to

1096

[01:01:37] 01: 01:57.850 --> 01:01:59.149

[01:01:38] Amy: tear down the house.

1097

[01:01:39] 01: 01:59.740 --> 01:02:02.940

[01:01:39] Amy: She tells Logan to cut the shit with the seances.

1098

[01:01:42] 01: 02:03.340 --> 01:02:09.360

[01:01:43] Amy: They ask. Steve asks if they're going to do it, and Shane says, Well, I'm going to tear it down for sure it's definitely coming down.

1099

[01:01:49] 01: 02:09.480 --> 01:02:16.819

[01:01:49] Amy: And I noted, yeah, right after we talked to Zack Bagans. But I double checked. And they he was this show or this

1100

[01:01:56] 01: 02:17.200 --> 01:02:21.050

[01:01:57] Amy: place was not on ghost adventures that I could find

1101

[01:02:00] 01: 02:22.360 --> 01:02:27.650

[01:02:03] Amy: and ap noted. I mean, I'll do it at some point when I'm done with it, which is, yeah.

1102

[01:02:07] 01: 02:27.650 --> 01:02:30.180

[01:02:07] Megan Simmons: Didn't say I'm going to tear it down right away.

1103

[01:02:10] 01: 02:30.180 --> 01:02:30.860

[01:02:10] Amy: Right away. Yeah.

1104

[01:02:11] 01: 02:30.860 --> 01:02:35.249

[01:02:11] Megan Simmons: Yes, I'm gonna it's definitely coming down like Ap said, when I'm done with it. Yeah.

1105

[01:02:15] 01: 02:35.250 --> 01:02:36.329

[01:02:15] Amy: When I feel like it.

1106

[01:02:16] 01: 02:36.879 --> 01:02:44.420

[01:02:17] Amy: I will say I do think that it has come down because I did find what I think is the property, and I think that it is down.

1107

[01:02:24] 01: 02:44.510 --> 01:02:53.050

[01:02:24] Amy: So the follow up is just a screen that, says Logan, has stopped conducting seances since the investigation.

1108

[01:02:30] 01: 02:53.470 --> 01:02:54.800

[01:02:31] Amy: It doesn't say

1109

[01:02:32] 01: 02:55.380 --> 01:02:59.650

[01:02:33] Amy: the activity continues, the activity doesn't continue. It doesn't. Yeah.

1110

[01:02:37] 01: 02:59.860 --> 01:03:00.360

[01:02:37] Amy: So.

1111

[01:02:38] 01: 03:00.360 --> 01:03:01.490

[01:02:38] Megan Simmons: We don't know.

1112

[01:02:38] 01: 03:01.890 --> 01:03:04.200

[01:02:39] Amy: We don't know. We don't know.

1113

[01:02:41] 01: 03:04.200 --> 01:03:09.640

[01:02:41] Megan Simmons: So I thought overall this was a good episode. I don't see why it's the most watched.

1114

[01:02:48] 01: 03:10.290 --> 01:03:10.860

[01:02:48] Megan Simmons: I don't really.

1115

[01:02:48] 01: 03:10.860 --> 01:03:11.630

[01:02:48] Amy: Either.

1116

[01:02:49] 01: 03:11.630 --> 01:03:16.590

[01:02:49] Megan Simmons: I've in my opinion there are other episodes that are way better than this one.

1117

[01:02:54] 01: 03:16.590 --> 01:03:17.260

[01:02:54] Amy: I agree.

1118

[01:02:54] 01: 03:17.260 --> 01:03:18.269

[01:02:54] Megan Simmons: But it was still good.

1119

[01:02:56] 01: 03:19.830 --> 01:03:20.540

[01:02:57] Amy: It was good.

1120

[01:02:58] 01: 03:20.540 --> 01:03:21.909

[01:02:58] Megan Simmons: Ap. Is nodding.

1121

[01:03:01] 01: 03:22.942 --> 01:03:33.660

[01:03:01] Amy: You could talk. It's just that you might be a little late. But oh, do you want to do the you're you're up for the the re ending. Do you want to do that?

1122

[01:03:14] 01: 03:38.070 --> 01:03:45.309

[01:03:15] Amy: No, okay. We have to wait 10 seconds for her to answer, because she's on the delay storm, delay. We'll call it

1123

[01:03:21] 01: 03:45.800 --> 01:03:46.660

[01:03:21] Amy: okay.

1124

[01:03:22] 01: 03:46.810 --> 01:03:48.299

[01:03:24] Amy: Megan, do you want to do it?

1125

[01:03:25] 01: 03:48.300 --> 01:03:48.930

[01:03:26] Megan Simmons: Sure.

1126

[01:03:26] 01: 03:48.930 --> 01:03:50.950

[01:03:26] Amy: Since I talked a lot.

1127

[01:03:28] 01: 03:51.240 --> 01:03:51.840

[01:03:28] Megan Simmons: Sure.

1128

[01:03:29] 01: 03:53.380 --> 01:03:54.360

[01:03:31] Megan Simmons: Next week.

1129

[01:03:32] 01: 03:54.600 --> 01:03:55.660

[01:03:32] Megan Simmons: Oh, I'm sorry.

1130

[01:03:33] 01: 03:56.060 --> 01:03:56.860

[01:03:34] Megan Simmons: No, go ahead.

1131

[01:03:34] 01: 03:57.000 --> 01:03:59.010

[01:03:34] Megan Simmons: Thanks everyone for joining us.

1132

[01:03:36] 01: 03:59.020 --> 01:04:06.110

[01:03:36] Megan Simmons: Next week we will be releasing a sideshow, and we're not sure what we're going to talk about. So stay tuned.

1133

[01:03:43] 01: 04:06.340 --> 01:04:06.940

[01:03:44] Amy: Yup!

1134

[01:03:44] 01: 04:07.160 --> 01:04:11.479

[01:03:44] Megan Simmons: Thank you for coming and listening. Thanks for joining us.

1135

[01:03:49] 01: 04:11.895 --> 01:04:12.310

[01:03:50] Amy: Ap.

1136

[01:03:51] 01: 04:12.310 --> 01:04:13.090

[01:03:51] Megan Simmons: Struggling.

1137

[01:03:52] 01: 04:14.520 --> 01:04:15.770

[01:03:53] Amy: Ap says.

1138

[01:03:53] 01: 04:15.770 --> 01:04:18.560

[01:03:53] Megan Simmons: Just thank you with her eyes, because she's

1139

[01:03:55] 01: 04:18.590 --> 01:04:24.410

[01:03:56] Megan Simmons: having some technical difficulties, and so she's been cutting in and out, and we miss her.

1140

[01:04:02] 01: 04:24.410 --> 01:04:26.340

[01:04:02] Amy: She's on storm delay. She's waving.

1141

[01:04:04] 01: 04:26.340 --> 01:04:26.850

[01:04:04] Megan Simmons: Queen of air.

1142

[01:04:04] 01: 04:26.850 --> 01:04:27.240

[01:04:04] Amy: Swear.

1143

[01:04:04] 01: 04:27.240 --> 01:04:28.080

[01:04:04] Megan Simmons: Raid, wave.

1144

[01:04:06] 01: 04:29.787 --> 01:04:31.560

[01:04:07] Amy: You guys are gonna have to watch the video.

1145

[01:04:09] 01: 04:31.560 --> 01:04:32.550

[01:04:09] Megan Simmons: Yeah. Sorry.

1146

[01:04:10] 01: 04:32.550 --> 01:04:37.010

[01:04:10] Amy: Well, listen to this all the way to the end. Now you're gonna have to go back and watch the video tomorrow. Damn it.

1147

[01:04:14] 01: 04:37.190 --> 01:04:37.870

[01:04:15] Amy: that's hard.

1148

[01:04:15] 01: 04:37.870 --> 01:04:41.029

[01:04:15] Megan Simmons: Watch. Listen! You get us double the fun. Double.

1149

[01:04:18] 01: 04:41.030 --> 01:04:42.030

[01:04:18] Amy: Double the fun.

1150

[01:04:19] 01: 04:42.540 --> 01:04:45.460

[01:04:20] Amy: Alright, thanks, everybody! Bye!